Exactly hard mode 30 changes the whole game. People say its easy on normal 26 which it is and not complain well let's see when they get to thirty. I'm a level 30 I have played with five 29s twice two different groups and well we haven't had luck. Maybe just trying other methods weren't working or maybe we just sucked I don't know. Normally we play superb. But know I feel like there is a shit ton of adds and splash damage and oracle factor. Could be the 29s (some didn't pull weight). To me if you could reach it then how's it cheating. There's not very many 30s so till then it's going to be extra hard.

We beat the encounter before, i speak about the templar it self.