They are great guns. Most times people use weapons for advantages not just pvp. You used to use ice breaker to create heavy ammo drops in Year 1. You must be a year 2 to not of acquired and realized the value in these weapons. Invective generates ammo too. Use that if you don't have ice breaker.
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According to some mida too op. All over forums when moved up. Ice breakers don't break in game mechanics it is a perk on the gun not something glitched in game. The ability to not lose ammo when you switch guns when dead is part of the game and applies to all formats of the game.
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Mida isn't op, it never was. It was good in Y1 and it's good to outgun anipers that are nearly everywhere since Shotguns are broken. And the Icebreaker exploit...Guess what? It'll be patched. And if it won't be patched, it's just another reason to not play the game anymore. No big deal.
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You know why no one said Mida was op in Y1 althoigh it always was the same as now? And you know why it's that good atm? Because nearly everything except Scouts and Snipers is broken. Everyone runs around wihh a Sniper in Trials...over 75% of special weapons are Snipers. And Mida is one of the best counters to snipers...it's one of the best weapons right now, but that doesn't mean it's op. TLW is way more op.
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I get ur point, and i certainly agree.. Bungie -blam!-s crucible up each time, there is always one gun that does the freaking killer damage and the majority switches to that gun and no other guns. Get into a crucible match and i think 4/5 times everyone will almost have either a mida or a tlw equipped. I find these weapons OP because the do above average damage. Mida (Close/Mid/Long range) rekts just as TLW (mid/close range) does. They are certainly more effective then 95% of the other weapons!