I think the people who defend without knowledge are pretty stupid. But the stupider ones are the ones accusing with false numbers. And then those that are proposing retarded nerfs are also stupid. Just my two cents. If you're going to propose a nerf, at least make a logical one. Not "3-4 hammers" or "15% armor reduction total (meaning they'd lose 35-40%)" or anything like that... Shave 3-5 seconds off the timer. Bam. Hammers reduced, roaming time penalized more, etc. And then also the people saying "Titans cried for nerfs all of year one"...are also stupid. So did Warlocks. About Hunters. Who had plenty of reasons to be nerfed...and they were nerfed! But only like a year later. If Titans and Warlocks can deal with Hunters for a year, why can't Hunters deal with Titans for 2 weeks before they whine? Hell, I can easily kill a HoS titan or at the very least get him to waste 4+ hammers trying to kill me. The problem with this game ( or rather, the source of the whining) is that it's been promoting bad gameplay for a solid year. All of the multikills (from one hammer) I've seen with HoS have been people practically hugging each other and begging to be killed. Hell, Tethering them has also been very effective... Might just be me, who knows.