Telesto can be avoided and if you can't you are incapable of playing this game. Shatterdrive is out of control when I have had a healing rift out and therefore full bars and got one hit ko'd by it. Telesto isn't as bad as everyone acts like it is. It is literally like every other gun in this game that people spam. If you can't see that shatterdrive and hunters in general imo need nerfed you need to get real mate.

[quote]Telesto can be avoided and if you can't you are incapable of playing this game. Shatterdrive is out of control when I have had a healing rift out and therefore full bars and got one hit ko'd by it. Telesto isn't as bad as everyone acts like it is. It is literally like every other gun in this game that people spam. If you can't see that shatterdrive and hunters in general imo need nerfed you need to get real mate.[/quote] I said telesto as a joke but ok. Also people wouldn’t be complaining about shatterdive if glacial grenade didn’t kill in one shot. That’s the real issue IMO, not hunters. If they make glacial deal, I dunno, only 150 damage if all of the shatters hit, the shatter dive I believe would still not finish them off, allowing the person to fight back with a shotgun, allowing SOME kind of resistance. But for real though, most of the time they aren’t hard to avoid, unless you’re on a map like cauldron. [spoiler]also Titans get the full over shield thing. Damn, stasis warlocks really got shafted in pvp huh…[/spoiler]

I don't like using stasis. I hardly ever use it. I always feel like I have to because I still see spammed amounts of hunter stasis. While titans do have over shield, I do not have much of a problem with titans as I do hunters. I think it's time for Bungie to start actually making things equal and not just nerfing warlocks to the ground when we get 1 singular thing that is good next to hunters and titans with their bountiful amounts.

[quote]I don't like using stasis. I hardly ever use it. I always feel like I have to because I still see spammed amounts of hunter stasis. While titans do have over shield, I do not have much of a problem with titans as I do hunters. I think it's time for Bungie to start actually making things equal and not just nerfing warlocks to the ground when we get 1 singular thing that is good next to hunters and titans with their bountiful amounts.[/quote] Yeah gonna have to disagree with you there, warlocks have been stacked for as long as I can remember. Let’s look at all the classes good pve options Warlocks:Nova Bomb, Well of Radiance,Chaos Reach, Stasis and its turrets Hunters:Arcstriders(build heavy), tether, revenant. Titans:Ursa,Bubble,ThunderCrash,Middle tree hammers, Behemoth. Notice how Warlock has as many good pve options as Titans, the only thing that warlocks lack is a nuke super, which chaos reach sorta fulfills but cuirass performs better at. They have the most well known defensive super due to its versatility, only being beaten by Stasis Warlock. Now let’s take a look at PvP, Hunters:Arcstrider (very skill based) Bottom tree golden gun, Revenant Titans:Bubble, thundercrash Warlocks:Nova warp, Chaos Reach, Stasis and Top Tree Dawn. Warlocks have been and probably always will be stacked. Sorry about the wall of text [spoiler]I judged supers off of general usage, not off of one time events, which is why I’m not including blade barrage in pve since it’s only really used at atheon[/spoiler]