[quote]I was dicing with the idea of having the mode initially start off like Comp - SBMM enabled, but also laddered so that you do still face a higher calibre of player as you rise through the ranks. Once you hit, I dunno, Fabled or Mythic [i]then[/i] you can buy a ticket to the playoffs, so to speak. It would help bring a little casualness to the mode, but keeps the Elitist ethos that Trials is based on.[/quote] That’s a good concept. A lot of people wrongly assume I am talking about “handouts” or “entitlement”, any system that rewards players for progressing while being able to enjoy the level they are at is good for the game in my opinion.

It is, though I also like the idea of an elite PvP activity that has rewards for the absolute best of the best.

[quote]It is, though I also like the idea of an elite PvP activity that has rewards for the absolute best of the best.[/quote] Totally agree I just don’t agree with the classic narrative that an elite PvP activity has to come at the expense of other sections of the playerbase who make up the vast vast majority

Is it at the expense though? It seems to be existing within its own little bubble right now.

[quote]Is it at the expense though? It seems to be existing within its own little bubble right now.[/quote] Existing sure, but not thriving. Less than 50k players a day average is not even worth supporting really. I wouldn’t have a problem if they just left it completely as is and cut it loose either.

Doesnt really impact me if it stays or goes either honestly. I guess I come from the era of when videogames were entirely "get good or go home" lol. I'm happy to accept that, currently, my favoured skillset in PvP does not translate at all well from 6v6 to 3v3. However nowadays, games flatter the people who play them. Some do it overtly, others subtly. Destiny is absolutely one of them, so I guess its jarring for some people to suddenly run into something genuinely cold and unforgiving towards honest to goodness lack of skill. 🤷‍♂️

[quote]Doesnt really impact me if it stays or goes either honestly. I guess I come from the era of when videogames were entirely "get good or go home" lol. I'm happy to accept that, currently, my favoured skillset in PvP does not translate at all well from 6v6 to 3v3. However nowadays, games flatter the people who play them. Some do it overtly, others subtly. Destiny is absolutely one of them, so I guess its jarring for some people to suddenly run into something genuinely cold and unforgiving towards honest to goodness lack of skill. 🤷‍♂️[/quote] Same here, it’s a pretty embarrassing result right now so if it goes back in the lab fine by me. I’m totally sick of players accepting or even supporting mediocrity (when it benefits them). I have no problem with purely competitive gaming, but the game needs to support that, and Destiny just isn’t built for that. No dedicated servers, no effective anti-cheat, rare updates, no effective matchmaking balancing, RNG loot based weapons, etc etc etc.

I dunno. Its hard to reconcile an elitist mode with the vast majority of players without watering down what its meant to be.

[quote]I dunno. Its hard to reconcile an elitist mode with the vast majority of players without watering down what its meant to be.[/quote] I know what you mean, and totally agree to a point. That point is matchmaking. If that could be sorted then I think players would enjoy an actual ranked or competitive mode.

[quote][quote]I dunno. Its hard to reconcile an elitist mode with the vast majority of players without watering down what its meant to be.[/quote] I know what you mean, and totally agree to a point. That point is matchmaking. If that could be sorted then I think players would enjoy an actual ranked or competitive mode.[/quote] *touches the floor* You hear that? Its the sound of a bazillion solos v stacks threads coming... but this time about Trials! 🤪