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10/29/2018 2:58:48 AM
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由Cry2God4Revenge編輯： 10/30/2018 8:28:21 PMAll special weapons got nerfed in Forsaken. Shotguns lost 3 - 5 meters Fusion rifles lost 10 meters. Snipers cant OHK supers anymore The shotgun is easy to pick up, so is the fusion rifle. Now mastering them is difficult; the issue however is that the fusion rifle is inacurate at close range when it shouldnt be At point blank range and close range, the fusion rifle should be very accurate. Only way you shouldnt be able to kill is if you miss or get flinched. At medium range, the fusion could map/clean up if you control the burst, which takes skill But the fusion is too random. edit: and no, people didnt use telesto just cuz of shotguns d2 beta/entire y1 d2 was fusion rifle because the fusion rifle was wayy too good and had too much ammo
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People use Telesto because it’s an almost guaranteed kill against rushing shotguns. Main Ingredient used to be great but you have to mail ALL particles for a kill now due to the silent nerf on fusion. Telesto is an exotic so it should have an advantage just like other exotics.
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Actually they are asking for an underpowered exotic fusion rifle to be nerfed by moving it to the Heavy Weapon slot. Where it will NEVER see any use in PVE. (I get really tired of shooter gamers always declaring weapons that they struggle to adapt to smeone else's overpowered crutch). The only crutch weapon in this game is The Colony....and that's only because you don't even have to AIM that weapon. Just fire it in the general DIRECTION of your target.
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Its the best fusion for a reason. Very hard to counter even with a shotgun rewards missing due to explosives. if its gonna stay on special increase the spread when standing up or something. Because its mega cancer using a legendary fusion when the telesto maps me while hipfiring. [spoiler]ignoring my nova warp reply, hmmm[/spoiler]
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[quote]Its the best fusion for a reason. Very hard to counter even with a shotgun[/quote] Any fusion rifle being used skillfully is going to be hard to counter with shotguns. Fusion rifles were designed to be one of the game's hard counters to aggressive shotgun play. Its just that many new players NEVER learned this because Bungie removed special weapons from the game last year. Now their back....and snipers and shotgunners who never had to learn how to counter a mid-range, OHK weapon are howling nerf. Again.
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由Cry2God4Revenge編輯： 10/30/2018 8:23:01 PMTelesto is hard to counter because 1. Cant play the range advantage because maps/line of sights arent huge 2. Telesto can map you/do a lot of damage at any range 3. some maps are shit at rushing. Unrelated: You gonna keep ignoring my reply about hunters and warlock?
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1. That not a sand box problem that's a map design problem. Shotguns are frustrating to deal with on the DLC maps for the same reason. 2. Telesto can't "map" you. Like all high-impact fusion rifles, it is a MID-RANGE weapon. Because its an exotic, Telesto doesn't experience range drop off like other FRs....but it has to deal with the DELAY in detonation of the needles to balance it out. If your profile is correct, you've just never played this game at time when FRs weren't broken AND were in the special slot. So you never were forced to adapt to them. "Nerf Fusion Rifles" is STILL a meme around here for a reason. 3. Which is why you need to be versatile in play style so that you can adapt to what the map your playing on will allow. What reply?
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由Cry2God4Revenge編輯： 10/30/2018 8:41:49 PM1. You dont nerf the shotgun for that then. Buff the fusion first, and see how the buff along the new changes to trace rifles work out. 2. My old b.net account was muted for talking shit in Offtopic. I have played this game since Alpha, been following it ever since the (creepy) !lettinggo video in 2011 that announced destiny.
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1. Never said you did. 2. Fine 3. We'll see. I think a full magazine at spawn is enough. They melt you, especially the forsaken one I edited the comment and added some info. I'll reply with my hunter reply in a second
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由Cry2God4Revenge編輯： 10/30/2018 8:50:26 PMI see. A friend has it, its so aids to fight lmao Im on the phone so I cant find the reply, but I did I have my reply copy and pasted. So here it is 1. Team shooting is way less common now. Few people even have the exotic gaunlet, but the moment xur sells it PvP will be cancer to play. (warlock gaunlet that gives you an overshield) 2. Hunter invis is not good. This isn't crysis. You could spam invis in d1, no one bothered even after invis got buffed twice. Spoof radar isnt worth the hassle. Dissoritent opponents is a good ability but not great. If you play with high sens (I play with 10) you can easily counter the "shock" 3. Arcstrider doesn't have a ranged attack. The slide melee has the same range as a shoulder charge when it tracks. Smoke is GARBAGE. Normal throwing knives are barely decent, the new burning knives are inaccurate. Again, the stun melee is good but not amazing. 4. Only works on striker, countered by radar/close range weapons. Its annoying but not broken. (shoulder charge) Hunter exotics are not good. Gemini Jesters isnt worth a damn and never was. Wormhusk was good due to a BUG on bottom tree arcstrider that gave you invulnerability for 2 seconds. It got nerfed after usage dropped when the bug was fixed. On top of that, crest of alpha lupi has the same perk but gives you more health and generate orbs of light. And get this: the healing pulse works on allies as well. And you take less damage when deploying a shield. And now, you do lose momentum when dodging. Raiden Flux got a stealth nerf. And arcstrider is not the best super in the game: Nova warp is. And guess what? sentinel is identical to arcstrider but can block damage and has a ranged attack. And with top tree, you get your health back on melee kills, unlike arcstrider. Plus its neutral is a better version of arcstrider. Foetracer isnt worth a damn. The marker lasts for 4 seconds. And One Eyed mask (titan) has a better version of it plus gives health, overshield, bonus damage and infinite tracking. It also works while using your super. The hunter is only relevant in PvP because of bottom tree arcstrider, and even that fell off when blade barrage released. But blade barrage has a shit neutral game, which is why its KD and win ratio is pretty low
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Ugh...alright I'm changing the title...the Telesto thing was kind of a joke to be completely honest, I was just annoyed. However since this has gotten way more attention that I intended I might as well make a meaningful argument, or state a meaningful opinion. Here's what I said to someone else... [quote]Honestly I should probably change the title since this has evolved way past Telesto is the besto. Basically I just want the game balanced, I don't care what they nerf, buff, or change to do it. The game is super broken right now, and I guess some people find that fun, I don't.[/quote]
