EDIT: Moving the bottom edit to the top because apparently people aren't reading the whole post before replying.
EDIT: This is an old topic that got bumped for some reason. This was originally posted back in November and a lot has been revealed since then that I no longer think this theory has any weight whatsoever.
I have read pretty much all of the major threads and theories. I will say that I do believe there is something that we have yet to find inside the Vault of Glass. It may be that it hasn't even been patched in yet, or just that it is so cleverly hidden like a certain skull from the past.
So one avenue is the Grimoire cards. At worst, we have some pretty cool lore surrounding the Vault of Glass that may or may not have a hidden message. If it does, I think this one is continually misunderstood:
"No one can open the Vault alone. I opened the Vault. There was no one with me but I was not alone."
A lot of people interpret this to mean the beginning phase where you have to defend three sync plates. I have heard a lot of interesting theories about how to do this part alone. But this part, you are not opening the Vault of Glass, just the way to it.
The Vault of Glass is the final room of the raid. Atheon's room. The raid might be called that, but when Kabr is mentioning opening the Vault, this has to be what he means. Further, you definitely cannot open this alone. You have to wait until your entire raid is in front of the door to open it.
So, with that said, what if there was a way to open this alone while your raid was somewhere else? What if the other 5 people go the alternate route to the inactive portal and wait there while one person goes and stands in front of the door? What if there are other things for the other members to be doing before someone attempts to open the door alone?
The Vault of Glass is sealed until you open it. So perhaps, if you were to do something to trigger some other special events, when it opens, it would be a different time period and you would enter into the past and be able to save Kabr?
Curious what you all think?
EDIT: This is an old topic that got bumped for some reason. This was originally posted back in November and a lot has been revealed since then that I no longer think this theory has any weight whatsoever.
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1 ответThe intro chime to Destiny has seven notes. Seven oracles. Kill them in the same order as the intro tune. ??? Profit.
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11 отв.Has anybody tried killing all the gorgons?
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I've seen it done by a single Guardian. No word of a lie. It's called a GLITCH.
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Really? Its obvious the Cryptarch is an evil behind dood. He's the reason behind all this! All those times he gave us lower teir guns from legendary engrams. Bungie had to "Update" (Pay) him to stop his madness. See Atheon used to be a nice ass dude you know, passed out Exoctics like it was Christmas, but one day, when Atheon went to go visit the Reef when he heard about the Awoken never having an Exotic gun before, he met the queen of the Reef. Everything was going alright, even though the Vex had a terrible name Atheon explained that all Vex aren't evil. Just when The Awoken guardians were getting Red deaths, Suros Reigems, (Pre-nerfed) Vex-Mythoclast, etc. But! The Cryptarch was given the Bad Juju and we all know how much it suck donkey butts (Hopefully for now). You see the Cryptarch the Reef Queen's adviser (used to). He was also a powerful intergalactic wizard capable of leveling planets with a flick of his finger. The suckiness of the Bad Juju pissed him off, Atheon was trying to give him another gun, but nope it didn't work. The Cryptarch banished him to Venus and into the VoG along with his wife Templar and their kids, the Gorgons and their Butlers the Suppilcants. After 78,978,978,989 years in the VoG you know it just pissed him off. While in the VoG he learned how to operate time portals and found old abandoned Vex robots. Why do you think there so easy to kill? Atheon still gives away his Exotic cause Atheon is naturally nice, but you gotta beat him for it. (You never kill him you just knock him out, and the bottom-less pit is a shallow drop that leads to an oil pool where atheon bathes) So in a nut shell the Cryptarch is the evil secret behind the VoG.
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The door at the spire area IS the entrance to the vault of glass, in one of the grimoire cards it says that the Templar, the oracles, the gorgons and Atheon posses the power to determine what is real and what isn't INSIDE the vault, so if it wasn't the vault from the beginning they wouldn't be able to harm us.
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1 ответon the subject of oracles in the templar area. there are 7 diff. oracle spawns in there right? and didnt somebody say something about a secret in Halo with the 7 main notes to the theme song? how many main notes are in the destiny theme that plays at the title screen and do the sounds the oracles make maybe have something to do with replicating that theme in terms of order they are killed? just throwing ideas out there .
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There is no secret, there's a few chests that haven't been found yet, but no other secrets. List of chests that spawn: Open the vault: chest 1 Defend confluxes: chest 2 (Spirit bloom) Kill oracles: chest 3 (Exotic) Defeat templar: Chest 4 (Gorgons maze) Defeat templar without him teleporting: Chest 5 (Hidden passge from templars well) Places that chests can spawn: Passageway underneath chest 1 Cave within jumping puzzle Hole within atheons arena. So nothing else after atheon, no kabr stuff, theres just bonus places for chests to spawn.
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16 отв.1.) Kabr is dead, he stated so himself in the Grimoire Cards. He gave up his life and light to make the Relic Shield and the pool of light in the Templar area. What remains of him is our key to taking down the Vault. 2.) I highly doubt, very highly doubt that Bungie would implement a chest that requires the Raid to be done, or at least partly done, by a single player. I mean, 1 could do it solo, such as Gorgon Cave, pushing Templar off, etc. can all be solo'd, but it's not a requirement to be solo'd to spawn these current chests. 3.) Kabr became insanely addicted to the Vex. He learned secrets that he died with, secrets that the Vex knew would destroy them and their goals. He made armour out of Vex pieces, fusing them with his very own body, slowly becoming more Vex like, himself. In the end, he knew he couldn't take them down alone, it was too much, even for him, however, he learned so much so that he figured out how to finish them off, to which he made the Relic Shield as the weapon perfect for fighting off the Vex. 4.) There is nothing after Atheon, he isn't the beginning of the Vault, he is what the Vault was guarding, the center mind to the goals of the Vex throughout time, where the Vex can send messages to to send to future or past to carry out plans, a point where all information is sent too, a conflux. Kind of like his name, "Atheon, Time's Confux", right? I like your thought process of thinking outside the box compared to others and implementing the Grimoire Cards into play here. However, I believe you may be thinking a little to much about it. The way we need to find out how to spawn these missing chests is to think like Bungie. Would they make something super complicated like 1 person requirement to unlock a chest? No. Would they have a secret continuation after Atheon after they stated he was the end, nothing comes after? No. Would they make the secret to the chests obvious, right in front of us, something we've been interacting with for months now? YES. Take Halo 3 by Bungie for instance. On the level Covenant, players for months have been walking right by the rings on the bridge that make musical notes, and we knew that. However, a few players still hunting for the IWHBYD found out that Bungie loves the number 7, there are 7 main notes within the main Halo theme and that they can use these rings to play it. Well, after trial and error, the skull spawned. They figured out a secret Bungie has been throwing in their face from the get go on the very first mission.
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2 отв.I think they have some more work to do on it. I think there will be a real reward screen after they add some stuff about kabr
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These reflections intrigued me, I think there might be something hidden in the vault of glass. I still have not figured out where someone has found the sentences and stories on kabr, if anyone knows, I would do a favor if you could tell me where I can go and read them. I think it is normal that once the glass has some his mysterious side. is part of the game, and without mystery, the game itself would lose much of its appeal. rightly so. whether in time of glass there is still something or not. I am convinced that there is something to discover
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its all bunch of bull....no backstory whatsoever
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5 отв.On the right side of the Atheon's room there is a hole which is pretty similar to holwe which is behind spirit bloom's chest. Maybe there is a trigger to make it open?
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It is only natural when the story is crappy enough that people will cook up stuff like this. Sad part is, it's more entertaining than the actual story.
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Every checkpoint keeps track of different stats , every other completed level starts a timer before you are sent to orbit except after the atheon fight , there's gotta be more to it
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12 отв.Maybe 3 people in a squad get to the vog on Venus and do the raid that way. We know the original group consisted of Panahin, Kabr, and Osiris.. A hunter, A titan, and a Warlock. Maybe we have to do as they did and go in as the three and do it so may unlock chests you can't get with a full group. After the first chest the, titan should go through Kabrs trials also.
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That may work considering that the portal in the jumping puzzle can somehow be activated. Just speculation!
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1 ответИзменено (Russ): 11/22/2014 7:11:50 PMNot sure if any one seen this video but... any best bit is right at the end Edit 1 its a cool way to the boss i just cant put the puzzel together for its purpose
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1 ответAnother great post on reddit. This one has all armor from the vault of glass but with different colour http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2la9gs/double_secret_probing_what_we_do_and_dont_know/
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3 отв.ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!?!?
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What if kabr is atheon? Since he became so "vex like" and him teleporting us back and forth in time has something to do with this?
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That's a post I made on what I believe we must do please feel free to read.
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How about if 1 person gets cleansed from fanatics and all others die from gorgons gase?
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There was coding to enter to fight a sort of "Super Aetheon". But they said nah. Just leave it be.
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4 отв.My question: why do Titans get all the glory?!?!??
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11 отв.Her guys I'm looking for a fire team of explorers, people who have already ran the raid and don't need the known boxes. You will need plenty of patience and time ( not the gun) and be up for trying new things. It is no coincidence that we run the raid the same way every week and we don't find any new things. Level 29/30 with maxed weps please. Message zp evo on Xbox one or leave your details here.