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10/28/2014 11:44:05 PM
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Aetheon Push
I'm a bit nerved at this new patch that places baby bumpers on his platform. There are places we can fall off all over the place including this platform. If I can fall off then any other character, be it AI or not, should be subject to the same fate. Just because it's a boss should not grant special immunity
People spend a lot of time finding and strategizing new ways to work together to accomplish the raid. Some have found this 'push' to be a well thought out process and more than likely 'stubbled' upon by accident which I am sure ended in jubilation.
What was already a serious grind has now become an unfair grind tilted toward the AI. It was bad enough the ammount of hit points it takes for high level bosses compared to what a gaurdian can take like a one shot kill from them compared to a clip or more from you and that is for the lower level AI's.
So you nerf the weapons to make every grind longer (boring and monotonous) and now buff, for lack of a better word, the main boss while making gaurdians weaker?
My question is who is Bungie really catering to? It does not appear to be the majority rather small groups more than likely found each week in their 'community' focus.
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5 отв.It's not a legit way to beat it. It's (excuse my French) a pussy ass lil bitch way. Honestly if you cannot beat the raid in a way that is legitimate and needs actual skill to do then you shouldn't be doing the raid at all. The raid is endgame content that requires skill and teamwork. If u push him off you don't use any skill. It may be a cool way to do it but it is an exploit and I am glad they fixed it.
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3 отв.You can still push him off, I get the point of your post though it seems as though they don't care about our feedback.
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it doesn't bother me so much as they refuse to work on the other glitches in the raid that makes everybody else mess up like vengeance not working the teleporting portals not allowing people to go through correctly and so forth.
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15 отв.Atheon can be killed by a competent team in about 30 seconds. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shKEaGBHVW4[/url] I'm not sure how you consider actually fighting the boss unfair.
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1 ответAs developer i would only make 1 simple change. No Rewards when you pushing him off, and ID is done, gg!
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2 отв.Don't worry! People are now pushing Aetheon onto the bubble then dropping him down the center pit. Baby bumpers did jack shit. I'm soo dumbfounded by the lack of quality control and testing. Bungie Dev meeting Monday 9:13am Deej: community is up in arms that Aetheon can be cheesed off his platform. We need to make sweeping changes! Developer 1: Sounds like it's too easy, let's randomize teleporting to offset the Pushing. Developer 2: Awesome idea! I was working on some new Halloween content but I can just scrap it and throw in a pumpkin head. Let's divert my 18 cycles to "fixing" the teleport "bug". Hahaha, we're so awesome! High fives Dev 1. Deej: Um, what about the actual problem of the boss being knocked off the ledge? Shouldn't we address that? Dev 1: uhh sure, we'll put some bumpers around the outside of the arena. No one would ever try to knock him out of that big gaping hole in the middle right? Dev 2: Yeah yeah, whatever. So here's how we can randomize teleporting...shows Dev 1 his initial write up. They start giggling excitedly over their plans and continue to fist bump and high five each other. Deej: so when you 2 have a moment can you run me through how we plan to play test the changes? Dev 1: hehehe, this randoporting is going to be awesome! Dev 2: I know right! We're going to get so many compliments on this idea. It's going to completely change the current MMOFPS paradigm. We'll be heroes! Deej: Hello? Ah -blam!- it! They don't pay me enough for this shit!
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I think he needs baby bumpers because he is AI.
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It's not that hard with random teleporting, just beat it yesterday
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1 ответHard mode is definitely doable... Just finished the hard with 4 level 30's 2 level 29's... We popped a Titan shield and then the relic shield in the middle platform while unloading our icebreaker and heavy machine guns... Took us 5 try's... And 2 times vengeance for the kill... We got lucky that we didnt get a portal glitch and a detain...
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1 ответIn all honesty, I like both ideas of pushing him off to get the rewards when I'm at a small window of time and legit play. Iit's fun (and frustrating) to see teamwork. It allows us to see the skills of other players we don't personally know. When we are with players who has a sense of communication and leadership, it makes that fireteam feel worthwhile. On the other hand.. You get the picture. The higher difficulty means more communication, variety, and the learning of new things. I'm sure someone will find another way to push him off, lol. Maybe the middle gap there in the arena?
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1 ответThe bumpers barely work, he can walk up them and float in midair. So wierd.
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5 отв.I understand where you're coming from but think about it like this. A raid is designed to be beaten by a group of players. Not solo which is what pushing him off allowed. Also a strategy would consist of using all aspects of the battle yet knocking him off did not require anyone to be teleported. There is truth in what you say but I don't think the words raid and easy should ever be used in the same sentence.
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6 отв.It's really not that hard to take him down on hard mode, even with the random teleport. It's about team work and having good players. You can't do it? Don't. Just leave it alone. Let the real gamers beat him and get the spoils.
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1 ответI KNOW. I've tried that raid 4 times and couldn't even scratch Atheon. The push was about the only way that my team could beat him. Now we can't do it anymore. Thanks bungie...
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5 отв.http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/75527548/0/0/1
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1 ответ[quote]Hey bungie! I suck at this game and only try to cheat this and every other game out of time and difficulty! Can you Plz make it so that, like, a noob like me canz defeats atheon easy? It wouldz be very good if me can beat boss final without effort. You thanks![/quote]
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1 ответThis must be a troll, no idiot alive would moan about an exploit being patched.
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2 отв.Atheon can still be pushed off
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12 отв.Yo the videos are there but you rather cry then go watch it?
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13 отв.You seem like someone who loads up a new game and immediately changes difficulty to the easiest possible. Who wants a challenge when their are trophies at stake?
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8 отв.Honestly I'm more concerned about Atheon only sending 2 people into Time Stream and the supplicants teleporting around the map due to the servers.
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Lol actually what I said if he can't fall then we can't right.? Lmfao they said challenging then challenge your boss haha when we can run all over.
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5 отв.Nooooo bungie I can't get my mythoclast easily now,I'm so bad at this game please make it easy again bungie take it away me and my retarded friends can't push him of and beat the easy raid now pleeeeeassse bungie
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26 отв.Umm it makes no sense that a player can make a raid boss stagger backwards. Most MMOs have bosses with special buffs that grant them immunity so they don't get turned into your b!tch. The guardian of time being too dumb to walk away from a ledge after a sunsinger spams grenades at him... Where's the logic in that?
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2 отв.It's not a "well thought out plan" it's simply a bug... The percentage of players who completed the vault on hard rose from .1% to 1.5% in three days after the glitch became mainstream. If you can do basic math, that's a 1500% increase, and I'm sure at least 90% of the players who pushed him wouldn't have been able to beat him legitimately.
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10 отв.I'm fine with the baby bumper thing...that was a legitimate glitch that needed to be patched. The real problem is the whole "random player teleported" shit...I think that is the most pointless update, it totally takes away from the strategy of the final battle and wrecks it all...
