[url=http://www.quakelive.com/]Quake Live[/url] - Counter Strike is random, campy, and breaks down when played in anything other than 4v4. Quake has more depth, and a larger skill-gap. It's [i]the[/i] competitive first-person shooter - it's not just about aiming and movement, but resource management too. It's a unique, fun combination.