High level pvp in Destiny doesn't exist, even Faceit or these 1k dollar tourneys are a joke, we don't have high level pvp in this game because it's a casual game in terms of pvp

I can tell you low level pvp isn't exactly flying either. Regardless seems bungie equates pvp to trials which i equate to streamers and youtuber interests mostly. Consider this. Walk through the throne world and look around. Look all the walll and indoor and outdoor environments, the hidden chests, the public events, the game modes, the battlegrounds. consider all the time, resources, artists, general man hours, Lots i'm sure. And for pvp they say they care but they did nothing. Not even take one of those locations and turn it into a pvp map. No they are going to give you an old map. All while leaving bad ones like twilight gap and convergence in the game. That is the sad state of destiny pvp. It is not what they are interested in. Sadly for me i'm far more interested in that than grinding strikes, gambit, story.

High level PVP is Iron Banner and Trials......which we have gotten neither of each yet. What "high" level PVP you playing?

I agree crucible is trash. But are you what high level looks like lol?

I tried to play this season but after awhile I realized not a damn thing has changed. Boring is an understatement. I love pvp so I tried hard to find joy, ultimately, it’s boring and lifeless.