[quote]Her throne world is desecrated.
Not annihilated, as Oryx's was. The pillars and terraces and courtyards still retain their shape. But the roots have rotted, and the geometry festers.
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Oryx kills xivu and savathun in his throne world. This is from the perspective of the hive, then we get xivu talking about her letting oryx killing her and going back deep into her throne.
[quote]OBLIGATIONS. Once, I permitted Oryx to kill me so that he could gain the sword logic and overcome Akka our God. This left me trapped deep in my throne. But Oryx my brother made war upon the Ecumene and in that war he described me, for I too am war. Thus I was resurrected.[/quote]
🤔🤔🤔 that's weird.
And when oryx dies in his throne what happens.
[quote]a full imagined exhale before the aftershock reaches his throne world.
It crumbles around her like stone, like ash, like veils in a breeze.
Eris Morn's friends have succeeded. The Guardians have slain a god.
She steps through the ruins. In the end, there is nothing. Nothing but Mara Sov and the howling of rampant, untamed logics.
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[quote]Her throne world is desecrated.
Not annihilated, as Oryx's was. The pillars and terraces and courtyards still retain their shape. But the roots have rotted, and the geometry festers.
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It's like his throne was completely wiped. Meanwhile xivu was chillin In her throne after oryx killed her.
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Yes… Oryx is dead, Xivu Arath and Savathûn are not. Very common knowledge. I don’t get what point this post is trying to make
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It’s probably tied to the idea that Oryx was killed in his own Throne World, which is supposed to mean true death. Xivu Arath was not in her Throne when Oryx killed her, so she lived and her Throne didn’t crumble. That’s probably why.
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That all still stands. People seem to forget the Hive on the Moon, the last of Oryx's legacy seemingly, are desperate. They have no leader and had been broken by the Guardians, to the point that the Fallen managed to constitute a threat to them on the Moon (information from Toland). They're essentially a genocidal cult doing what religions do best when they're proven wrong, struggle to construct a new, parallel doctrine. Admitting that Oryx failed is admitting that they may not be part of the Final Shape. Not to mention you state Xivu and Savathun were killed in Oryx's Throne World, yet came back. That's consistent with what we know.
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% If you're wondering why this isnt brought to light, it's because it's pretty much useless to us by this point who know how throne worlds work. Oryx killed Xivu and Savathun outside of their throne worlds. Then they were brought back. Until then, you could say they were actually just chilling in their throne worlds, waiting for Oryx to being them back. Everything was fine. The Guardian killed Oryx outside of his throne world in the D1 mission "Regicide." He retreated into his throne, which was the perfect time to attack, as he was basically in a recovery state, which is why he took himself before he retreated, as he knew he would be weak. Then in King's Fall, the Guardians did him in for good in his throne. His true deaths meaning his throne died with him. The Mindbender is a good in-game example of this. The moment he died in his throne, it started collapsing. Xivu and Sava didnt die in their throne worlds...but... The new collectors edition puzzle seems to contradict this. If Xivu and Savathun were killed outside of their thrones then brought back, then by what means do the Hive plan on bringing back Oryx? In the Books of Sorrow, "Necromancy," which is basically bs to the Hive ideology of sword logic, not once do we see mention of Oryx using necromancy to bring his sisters back. And if he did, I'm sure it would have been referred to as a great sin on their Sword Logic ideology. %