Jotunn, mountain top and le monarque are cheese weapons 🤦♂️
None of what you mentioned are remotely competitive in mid to high level pvp. Jotunn is usually used by bottom players (no offense meant) and anyone that strafes can easily counter them.
You should not talk about pvp if you have such a poor understanding of it.
Edit - To add my thoughts and contribute to the conversation:
Specials have a skill just like any weapon. The have a low skill floor (except snipers) but the skill ceiling is still there. A higher level player will dominate a lower level player given the same special weapon is equipped.
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Ya Sonic I agree with you 100% bro, none of it is viable in high comp. But the players that need to get better aren't in high comp, they're in quickplay. Thus, my argument. Btw not saying you don't already know that that just raising the point for those who see this.
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It's true that specials are interchangeable with primaries due to the plentiful ammo and this probably does diminish our need for primaries and makes us less skilled at using them, but I prefer this faster paced meta so much more than the dreadful uriel primary meta. Sorry for coming off as a dick before.
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Also np bro no sweat
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Изменено (Synocracy): 9/12/2019 5:16:54 AMI prefer it too, if shottys and snipers existed as they now in vanilla D2 (the way supers were, focus on primary, no cheese) I think we'd all be having a different discussion.
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Yea, supers will be considerably toned down in terms of armor and will be a one shot head shot from a 90 rpm sniper. I am also assuming the good old shotgun melee will work as in D1 so we should be good on that end. We will see come shadowkeep though.