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Изменено (Spawn):
12/12/2018 2:42:43 PM
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Anyone else bored of the same old grind?
This milestone gear up system is actually killing my enjoyment of this game, it feels like a tedious chore doing the exact same shit every week in order to gear up.
Actually tilts me beyond belief.
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If you don't grind, the grind takes care of itself.
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4 отв.Изменено (DeusFever): 12/11/2018 8:11:17 PMThis is the problem with the game currently. There is new content, but it is locked until you spend enough hours grinding the old content again. If I wanted to grind the old content, I wouldn't want new content! With vanilla D2, Bungie was trying to keep the game fun for the 80% of players who dropped out of Destiny 1. Bungie failed miserably, and those players left anyway. (It's hard to believe the folks at Bungie thought the dual primary weapons system and 4v4 only Crucible were the way to go?) Instead of moving to a middle ground for Forsaken, Bungie shifted the other way into full grind. It's not rewarding. It's not fun. It's not why we play Destiny.
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Active players in my clan are pretty dedicated, and I often hear the same questions "did you do your daily, weekly, bounty, etc." All I can say is ... no and I probably won't. Clan-mates are pretty cool and understanding so they get I play to enjoy myself and nothing else. They have no problem helping me once in a while to get a specific weapon or quest done but leave me alone if I prefer to wear my low level pretty helmet or want to spend an hour shooting flying cabals with my bow, looking at the beautiful skyboxes. You have to enjoy grinding to fully experience Destiny 2, and there will never be enough content for those who do. Then there's people like me who play for enjoyment and don't follow the required path. A perk from not having a lot of times to play games anymore. There's a lot to be enjoyed in this game, and I do in moderate doses. Just wish there was a middle ground so people who haven't reached 650 on all characters still get to experience most of the activities.
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Totally agree, power level is meaningless aside from it being used as a gating tool to content, higher power just doesn't feel any more powerful really and it's disappointing imo
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Yeah that's what I've been telling people for a long time now but people love being assholes about it. if you think about it there's nothing we can really do Bungie wants the progression system to be slow. we all want to do the Forge and we all want sweet loot so we have no choice but to deal with this b******* with the progression Like I told people before Bungie didn't have to Nerf the power in the forge a simple fix was just add a soft cap of 615 or 620 just like what we saw in that video on Bungie Twitter where a warlock was fighting a 600 power Hunter and the warlock was 625 so this would assume we were getting a soft cap I feel like that's how the annual pass should have been there should have been a soft cap if there was a soft cap people would be able to do the forge Bungie wouldn't get such a low rating from IGN for the black Armory which is 5.5 out of 10 and that's pretty low for a place where they kiss Bungie ass 24/7 like I said before if you talk about this kind of stuff to other people in the community they turn into full-on bullies and treat each other like s*** that's one of the reasons why I don't really talk to people in the community because over the years they became very toxic very disrespectful and not helping people like the community used to which is very sad
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1 ответИзменено (Celoxamortis): 12/12/2018 3:37:57 PMYou're not alone at all. I logged in yesterday semi-hopeful for the Dawning but as soon as I saw that the event was built around the same tired bounty-style grinding... I checked out. I said it before in the Black Armory Update thread and I'll say it again: Bungie doesn't understand how to make a meaningful progression system, so all we have is this "chase the numbers" endgame. Nothing is progressively harder really, it's made artificially harder by moving the goalposts from one number to a higher number. Mechanically, we've been playing the same game for over a year. Just look at the prevalent, overused "boss stomp" mechanic as an example. I was already bored to tears of the milestone grind before I hit 600 but soldiered on. I can't bring myself to do the same milestones, same Petra quests, and manage the litany of soft caps once again for another 50 points. Just can't. I have too many other games sitting in my backlog, most of which respect my time played far more than this game does presently. It also doesn't help that most of my friends and clanmates who did come back for Forsaken have already left again for much of the same reason.
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2 отв.Изменено (Bad-Karma1): 12/13/2018 1:50:36 AMMan you guys have hit it right on the head here. I am an older adult that has gamed my whole life. I work full time and and my gaming is down to 2 hours a night, that's if I am lucky when dealing with the kids and family. With that, it has taken me a long time to finally get all three characters to 600. The very next day LL's went up. I will admit I was and am pretty impressed with the way Forsaken has worked out. My clan numbers went up and people were playing regularly again. All in all I was very happy. But, then Bungie went bungie again right on cue... And, again they show their loyalty to the gamers that can play 8-10 hours a day, with complete disregard to the average gamer that I am sure makes up at least to 75% of player base. Bungie prefers making sure their streamers are well taken care of. They already have your money. I think what upsets me the most is there total communication black out. I get it, the game play must move on. But now, my clan numbers are dropping again and people are playing other games again. And instead of finally starting to enjoy endgame activity, raiding and such I have to turn around and level up again. Don't get me wrong I love destiny but man they are sure making it difficult to keep enjoying this. Did anyone notice the timing of the expansion release and the release of season 7 of Fortnite...? Just my thoughts because I agree with a lot that was said here. Take care...
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I'm kind of on the fence here. On the one hand I'm impressed and grateful that those of us who didn't buy the Annual Pass (yet) haven't been effectively been dropped from the game like this time last year. I'm pleased to be able to continue to level up (currently 617 and still got all the Dreaming City stuff to do yet this week), enjoying the quests for new weapons, looking forward to Iron Banner, and The Dawning is kind of fun. But... it's the same missions and bounties, with very few exceptions. Why are the daily heroics and strikes still the same level? Why can't my other characters who haven't progressed beyond the vanilla game play the next milestone missions on heroic? Now that I'm over 600 why do I still get my Postmaster slots clogged up with blue crap at 580 which I'm going to dismantle anyway? Yes, scrapper bounties are useful for those cores, but could they not be RNG in an automatic deletion algorithm? If I didn't play with Ishtar Collective up on my tablet and keep an eye on it I literally would have lost my Ikelos Shottie as I didn't see the engram under the ogre's corpse at first. I'm still enjoying it. I've got a lot of stressful family stuff going on at the moment and this is really the only activity that helps me unwind. TV, movies and reading don't cut it right now as I find my concentration wandering, but having to focus on hand to eye coordination and planning out the right combination of bounties/quests matched to activities is very therapeutic. Destiny is still good, imho, but after 4 years it should be great.
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My problem is that it seems that a lot of the stuff that I paid for, only a few people can actually play. Imagine if you just reached light level 500, 150 levels of repetitive stuff just to continue playing the game you bought. And all weapons that are worth something has some kind of quest or a progress bar. Did anyone bother to compute how much time it actually takes to get just a decent amount (and not a great deal of) these better weapons? Most of them takes a week even more. I get grinding for SOME items but this is literally flooding your quest log with grinding material. Even the winter event is a grind. Like, isn't the spirit of this season to be giving? Not only is it like work, it's like getting Christmas presents that you have to work for. That's basically a job.
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Yes. I've noticed maybe I play for an hour or less, then I just quit out the game. The grind is tedious and dull for powerful gear and exotics. I'd like to try out the new raid, and yet every LFG post has a required LL and so many clears. Miss the good old days where those who have experience with a raid or other event taught others how to run it. That's another reason I just log off.
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Definitely. We need a middle ground. The polarities if the D2Y1 grind (if you can call it a grind) versus D2Y2 grind are overwhelming. I love that we have multiple options for leveling but damn it’s immense. I liked mass effect 3 multiplayer leveling system. Level up 1 character of a particular subclass meant ALL were leveled up. I don’t want D2Y1 level grind I left bc of that but now IMO we have a tad too much.
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I logged in last week, first time I fired up Destiny in over a month. Stared at my ship in orbit for a few mins then logged out.
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Yeah. I'm starting to get burned out. No exotics, no point to keep going. Same crap day in and day out. Tons of different grinds to do, all with same lousy rewards. Today was the first day I came online and didnt feel like doing anything. Might be time for a break.
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Tilt ahaha
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It killed Destiny for me month ago. I am thinking about deleting my accounts, because after this month I dislike this game even more.
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Изменено (Teeb): 12/13/2018 4:59:29 AM
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God yes! Bump
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Yeah its sum robotic bs.
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I think the grind of forsaken even though it was fun just burnt people out. The weapon forging is just a grind of the same stuff from the beginning of the game 😪. Yes the forge is easier now that my light is higher but im just burnt out. I keep checking on here just to see if bungie does anything about the random boredom/chore of the game right now.
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Was really hoping for something new to regularly do with Black Armory, but I honestly don’t find the forges to be all that fun. It’s too insane. The timer mechanic and super short and rushed nature of each round is just annoying.
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1 ответAdd the cores and the constant need to upgrade using limited cores makes it less fun. I’m ok with playing but spending hours just getting ghost fragments for cores is wearing thin as fck. I would rather be playing crucible or having fun in strikes.
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It’s feels like a chore. A chore that I feel like I have to do, my parents are making me but I don’t want to do it. I have no choice. Kind of like homework when I was in school. Destiny 1 Rise of Iron was so much better.
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5 отв.Изменено (CookieNiki): 12/12/2018 12:18:43 AM[b]Bungie has a clear problem achieving a middleground with this game[/b]. They went from D2Y1, where we almost earned exotics by just logging into the game, to the complete opposite in Forsaken, with the implementation of a insane grinding with extremely rare exotic drops and a deeply flawed economy and reward system. Doing the same milestones for over 3 months straight turned this game into a weekly checklist that gives players as much fun as watching paint dry. Add to that the amount of powerful engrams that drop for the wrong slots and you will have less and less players invested in this game every week. Why? Because ONCE AGAIN this game is not respecting players time. All that Bungie cares is to use a RNG system heavily rigged to artificially extend playtime... at players expenses, ironically.
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Yes, the game has gotten really, really boring and tedious ... for me, many because the forge weapons don't seem all that good, and frames are being accidentally deleted.
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I've been trying to get the raid pulse and chromatic fire chestpiece for 12 weeks now so I'm kind getting tired of it
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The only thing that’s killing my enjoyment of this game is the enhancement cores.
