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6/18/2018 12:33:48 PM
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What I love most about the forums right now is that the people saying;
“Forsaken and Year 2 are finally going to right the ship. Bungie has finally taken our complaints to heart. It’s going to be amazing”
Are also saying;
“It’s EA, don’t trust them. Don’t buy the hype, wait and see how it reviews. Buying cosmetics is a bad practice. Etc.”
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well look at it this way. bioware’s last game was me:a ea’s last major game was battlefront 2 so now seeing the idea of them making a game together ( the same mmo like game that destiny is ). i feel like people are able to be more skeptical for anthem.
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There’s a few exceptions to your points though. 1) ME:a was worked on by another team entirely and many could see what was happening behind the scenes before the game even launched. 2) Anthem isn’t TRYING to be like Destiny or The Division or any other shared world looter shooter it’s purely trying to be Anthem. Which has also been in production since before either Destiny or The Division. (Work started on project Dylan in roughly 2011 the same time as ME3 and work really got going on it in 2013) 3) it’s because of things like SWBF2 and ME:A that EA Rae taking such a big step back and leaving Bioware to do their job. They can’t afford another massive screw up. The way I see it is we gamers are getting the best outcome of EA’s recent blunders.
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Изменено (drstg): 6/20/2018 4:50:49 PMHonestly, I feel the opposite way. ME: A was a buggy mess at launch. They patched most of the biggest bugs quickly after launch and released smaller patches as they were approved. The core game was solid despite being so sprawling. But Bioware STILL took responsibility for the state of the game. They shut down the studio responsible within months. What they didn’t do was lay out a road map over the course of a year or deny problems exist. Battlefront 2 had completely different issues. It was a beautiful game with fantastic gameplay and few bugs. However the loot boxes were so pervasive, the outcry swamped the game. EA’s response? They removed loot boxes BEFORE the game released. They then retooled progression system to be independent of loot boxes and then reinstated them for cosmetics only, which can still be earned without purchase. EA has released every Bioware game since DA: O, some of Bioware’s best games. The difference? Bungie cannot release any patches in quick order like Bioware or other studios. They come up with excuses and promises instead of results. Battlefront 2 intended to replace paid DLC with loot boxes to fund content. They have done so, although probably not to the extent originally planned. They just outlined their next set of free content at E3. Bungie relies on paid DLC, loot boxes, and now, “Annual Passes” to fund content. They constantly under deliver on that content. While I’m hesitant about both, I have more confidence in Bioware and EA ( I can’t believe I said that) than I do with Bungie.
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I completely agree with everyone saying that the smart approach is to wait and see with BOTH games. Ten years ago, Bungie and Bioware were both companies you didn’t need to wait and see. You could preorder with confidence that you’d get quality games at release and wouldn’t need to wait years for patches to correct the game. Now? No preorders. No Hype. And this isn’t saying D2 isn’t fun or that either company puts out awful products. But I will say both are struggling to put out products that live to their previous reputation.
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Ten years ago people were satisfied with getting what they got and had much lower expectations. Pre-orders were to secure your physical copy of the game before they ran out. . Now lots of players demand every game they purchase to meet all their hopes and dreams when nothing that was shown as part of the game prior to purchase was even close to what they demand from the game. Maybe if people just base their expectations purely off the information they are given and stopping building things up in their imaginations they would stop being so dissapointed.
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“You see those mountains over there...”
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You mean the iron lords temple. We went there eventually 😃
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It’s hard to base your opinion off the information available when developers mislead consumers as to what is actually included or how the game will actually play.
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Изменено (jaguar_god33): 6/18/2018 2:59:39 PMThe sh*t that people are warning other people against from EA, is the same sh*t they are happily eating from Bungie.
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The foresaken content was created before the game was launched. Don't know why people think Bungie are taking complaints to heart. The developers are working on D3 while the other crew they have puts back all the content that was removed.
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or even the fool me once but not twice bla bla bla , , lol if u bought d2 uve already been fooled multiple times, and the "next update will fix it all" is getting real old . lol
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My advice is don't pre-order wait for the reviews on both Forsaken and Anthem. That's what I am doing. EA and Bungie both are capable of using the ole hype swindle.
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EA were involved in the worst micro transaction scam last year. So understand that people are wise to be cautious.
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People can be wary of EA all they want, but the developer is what matters, not the financiers... Bungie has over 4 years of nothing but bad track record. Bioware had one game with a bad release, but have you played Andromeda since they patched it? They actually fixed the shit wrong with their game, there's still shit in D2 that was messed up in d1.
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[quote]there's still shit in D2 that was messed up in d1.[/quote] Not the worst part of it. The real problem for me it's that there's messed up stuff in d2 that was already fixed in d1
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So why do people still criticise Activision around here then?
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Because they are dumb fanboys that refuse to admit any guilt on bungies part. They are a multimillion dollar company that owned the IP, any decisions they made with that IP are on them. There are plenty of devs that have deals with Activision whose games were nowhere near as blatant as bungie.
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Exactly my point. I point out a fact and you respond like a child.
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think what he meant was that they obviously dont know that activision dont have bugger all to do with the poor decisions made by bungie . . . . could have said it a lil better is all
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I'm not saying that Activision doesn't have the power over bungie to make development decisions. I'm saying that you can't say bungie isn't at fault, when they chose to take ~500 million from Activision to make the game.
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There is a lot of hypocrisy surrounding the defence of Bungie at the moment. Fair enough the fall dlc may well be great and the other games being discussed may not live up to their promise but no need to sugar coat their practice and price structure. In my view if Anthem is a failure at launch it can be put right over time with free updates . If that means 18 months after launch it is finally ready to play then OK. Just the cost of the base game. The same cannot be said for Destiny. Anyone disappointed with the base game will not be able to return in the fall and find the game improved significantly unless they acquire both dlc then the Fall expansion first. Random rolls are not applying to anything year 1. I have no issue with that but it is not the free for everyone update many on here have repeatedly stated as fact.
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A smart person should be hesitant about both Forsaken and Anthem
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i really dont see why people are getting all meh over anthem or even being hesitant , if its even got the life of borderlands or division thatd still be good enough for me , , sure with d2's state id rather much more life with it and who knows maybe it will , ,still dont see why need to be hesitant
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Because 1) it’s EA 2) anthem has a 10 year plan for the game which could then end up turning into a Destiny scenario where content is cut to extend and drag out the game for longer. There will always be development in progress and cannot be immediately released (obviously) but if entire sections of the game are cut out for later that would be not good.
