What do you mean? There are people out there that prefer to use keyboard and mouse over a controller w/o having to use a PC. It's personal preference imo.

I know that, I do as well (been using these adapters since Xbox/Playstation days, so around 2001) But putting this up here when the sheer mention of XIM brings out seething rage just seems like someone put this up with the sheer intent of rustling jimmies

No def not. I put this up to allow people to know there options that's all. I mean unless you are in a group chat no one knows if you are using a keyboard/mouse combo and assume it's a controller.

[quote]I mean unless you are in a group chat no one knows if you are using a keyboard/mouse combo and assume it's a controller.[/quote] That actually is amusing when friends bring up hearing the "clicks" of me hitting the keys on my Razer Orbweaver during games, even more-so when some of their "friends" that aren't aware of it join and you start getting questions like "who the -blam!- is typing a novel while playing a game?" Honestly though, you can actually tell by watching some of the gameplay, the movements of the controller & kb/m can be quite noticeable if you know what you are looking for. There are quite a few youtuber videos I've seen that look like they are blatantly using a KB/M that vehemently deny it. One even took it as far as banning people on his stream for stating it looks like he's using one & tried he tried prove it by streaming with a video of his hands, which while doing so played blatantly worse than when he's NOT showing his hands and the movements were also different.

[quote][quote]I mean unless you are in a group chat no one knows if you are using a keyboard/mouse combo and assume it's a controller.[/quote] That actually is amusing when friends bring up hearing the "clicks" of me hitting the keys on my Razer Orbweaver during games, even more-so when some of their "friends" that aren't aware of it join and you start getting questions like "who the -blam!- is typing a novel while playing a game?" Honestly though, you can actually tell by watching some of the gameplay, the movements of the controller & kb/m can be quite noticeable if you know what you are looking for. There are quite a few youtuber videos I've seen that look like they are blatantly using a KB/M that vehemently deny it. One even took it as far as banning people on his stream for stating it looks like he's using one & tried he tried prove it by streaming with a video of his hands, which while doing so played blatantly worse than when he's NOT showing his hands and the movements were also different.[/quote] Lol an easy fix to this is to get a quieter keyboard or turn your mic down. As for the other guy well it shouldn't even matter what other people think. It's NOT cheating otherwise both Sony and Microsoft wouldn't allow it and they do. You play how you like, period. No one can tell you how to play a game that you like.

Bungie bans the use of adapters to use different hardware. You need a xim device or whatever it is to bypass the block on keyboard and mouse to play Destiny using KbM. It is cheating, do whatever you want but don't try to make it seem legit when it is in fact cheating. Q: What behavior can lead Bungie to apply account restrictions or bans to a player? A: Bungie regards the following behavior to be in breach of the license agreement that governs Destiny, and therefore potentially subject to access restrictions. taken from [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/11929[/url] This behavior includes: Connecting to the Destiny game service with any of the following: Modified game software Modified game assets Modified console hardware Modified console firmware Using an external program to modify the operation of the Destiny game software (trainer or mod). Using an external program or device to automate gameplay or circumvent idle detection. Modification or interruption of Destiny network traffic with intent to disrupt other players’ experiences, or to gain an advantage in the game. Intentionally deriving gameplay benefit from another user’s behavior in the above categories. Unauthorized access to Destiny software or downloadable content (game piracy). Impersonating a Bungie, Microsoft, Sony, or Activision employee. Don't tell people it's not cheating when it is, not only is it a lie, but you put them in danger of banned.