Ones Prescription of play is told by their idea of victory. Is someone who has to roll with the best of the best,using the most elite gear and crushing things easily great? Or is taking a group of fools and clowns and toppling gods with makeshift tools more impressive? I've been out of the game for years after my clan mate went Ps4 on me then had no one to play with ever again. (Irony someone bought it for him just to play this game. And stop playing It just as fast) I was never horrible, could carry my weight, we jump in with other play groups and dregged are way thou content. 2 manning nightfalls. When you play with people enough you learn how to work covering each others strengths and weaknesses. But,really we took pride in helping new players and helping people with other content. We had a 3rd man for sometime, but Atheon killed em. I guess my view on all this "For me and many other aspiring competitive gamers, victory is the top priority and casual fun comes second." not very useful. Cause, I do view raising more thou practice more Glorous.Than having a 24/7 oiled army. Mainly for this.. Mother fliping Hardcore players. Never wanted to do Atheon the fun way. always trying to cheese him. Turns out his raid is 100% easier if you dont try to cheese him,same thing with Crota and the King. I want to play it right, not easy. That and screw the Crutch..Juju for life.