almost a year later respond to this post why the hell not ;) IMO the 500p which I own is worth the extra $30 build and the surround sound is a no brainer the 400 is good which I returned for the 500 the 800 sounds better but it doesn't sound double the price better if I'm spending $300 on headphones I'm buying Bose or another quality manufactures headset not a plastic gaming headset. I do own several pair of Bose, I have owned and gamed with the Beats Studio wireless for awhile but they are not worth the street price, the hurt your head after an hour or two of use due to the tightness of them and again the sound quality of those vs the lesser Turtle beach 500P is it better? Yeah maybe for listening to music the beats sound a little better is it so much better it's worth the almost $400 price tag. no not at all. There are a lot of really over priced name brand products out there that you have to realize you are paying a good 40% just for the name. I've owned a lot of head phones in my time there are only 2 that stand out to me and I still own and use them as being "worth" the price paid. Point being it's something you have to decide on Sound quality & comfort vs price. For obvious reasons a more expensive headset should sound better than a cheap one not "Always the case" but in most instances this holds true better research and design, better drivers / hardware, better cables ect. In the case of the 400p, 500p and 800 I like the 500 myself the 800 is great if the price was a little lower maybe step up from the 500 maybe around the $200 range I'd probably be sold on them being worth upgrading to but at $300 they are not worth it. at $130 the 500P sound just as good. neither the 400 or 500 have bluetooth so if that's of some concern to you then may as well take them out off the table both can be plugged into your cell or any other device via a 3.5m cable Bose QC20i & Shure SE545 Both are very expensive head sets but the sound quality is second to none each has it's own purpose why I still own and use both. Neither would make an ideal gaming headset but they do work fine and I've used them as such on the road as I travel for work usually my PS4 or gaming laptop will accompany me for the trip.