Edit 5: please read the entire post through before jumping to a response. Thank you! I'm a day one player. I've been around since the first hour of this game dropping and I'll always have a soft spot for this game in my heart. I'm a die hard gamer. I don't post on the forum much. I'm an observer. I've been around for about 15 years; competitively. This is by far my favorite game I've ever played. Bungie games I have always been really good at. One thing I am having a lot of trouble with is the general attitude of this community. Collectively, it sucks. Seldom will I ever find a forum post that isn't "nerf this, nerf that, I hate this, bungie does this wrong, bungie does that wrong, we need more of this, we should't have to grind for this." I am clearly part of the minority. I love this game. This game has been nerfed into oblivion. First you all complained about auto rifles being too OP. Auto rifle nerf, now they suck. Then you cried about the thorn and last word being too OP. Nerfed. Then you complained about shotguns, nerfed and now useless. Just like everything else that has been nerfed. This community is toxic and it's bringing this game down with it. NOW it's snipers. I have been a sniper from day one. Pretty damned decent one at that. All this talk about aim assist, scope nerfing, rez sniping nerf; it's ridiculous. I try my best every single day to enjoy this game and for the most part, I do. I'm not calling against a nerf here. It's inevitable and I won't fight it. My message is not anti-nerf. My message is this - I am willing to admit when a team in trials beats my team fair and square because they are simply better than me and my team. They snipe better or work as a team better or are just more tactical. Whatever the reason I don't go running around blaming other people, cheating, lag or the game developers for my own failures. Quit walking directly into well known sniper lanes. Stop rushing around corners when you know the other person has a shotgun. Work together as a team. Admit when you do something wrong. Don't blame others for everything that goes wrong. Don't have temper tantrums. Learn from your mistakes, make yourself better, and move the fcuk on. I am so sick and tired of scrolling these forums not seeing a SINGLE shred of constructive criticism or positive energy. It's flooded with prissy little whiners. Don't like this game? Too bad. Go play fallout, or CoD, or even Battlefront. Destiny is a game better off without the narrow minded anyway. This game has it's flaws. Just like every game. But I love this game and I am a loyal gamer to the end. I guess that is just not as common as it used to be anymore. This current younger generation is never satisfied, so they whine and cry until they get what they want. This game needs positive and adaptable minds. Edit: My point was not to come off as "whining" or the "same as everyone else" I'm just trying to help people see that there are A.) plenty of other gaming options if you do not like this game. and B.) Solutions to this games problems that can be solved constructively and collectively as a community. There really are strength in numbers, and if we can all get on the same page and REALLY talk about suggestions to make a good game great; ultimately we will prevail. I do believe Bungie values our feedback, but I feel that it is hard for them to do so when everyone is spewing incoherent babble from their mouths because they're too salty to formulate a coherent thought. Edit 2: this topic is getting attention. Let's get this up to the top of the trend so we can REALLY start getting this message across. Level headed, constructive minds can retake this forum if we really want it! Edit 3: keep this topic trending! I work late nights and want to reply to all of you and I will. As soon as I get off work. Keep up the positive and valued feedback. I appreciate all of you. Edit 4: Wow. Never expected this post to get this big but here we are. Let me clarify a few things for those of you who have chosen to take this entire message completely out of context. This post is [b]NOT[/b] about me being upset about sniper rifles possibly being nerfed. Not even relatively. I couldn't possibly care ANY less if the guns get a nerf. One of my favorite things about gaming is the fact that we all constantly have to adapt to changes made in the game whether they are good or bad. If snipers get a nerf, awesome! I'll adapt, learn, and perfect the new system the best way that I can. Not one time during this post did I intend for any of you to think I was "crying about a sniper nerf" I'm not. My message was and has been all along that [b]we[/b] as a [b][i]community[/i][/b] need to really work on positive reinforcement and being productive with our thoughts on [i]how[/i] we can make this game great. Is this my favorite game? Yes. Does that make me biased towards this game? You betcha. Does it make me a pompous narrow minded a**hole that has no regard for what anyone has to say or other people's opinions? Absolutely [b]not[/b]. I'm calling on this community to stand together instead of in little groups, hell bent on one idea and blind to the big picture. This game and this community needs those that are willing to put bias aside (I would like to think I am one of those people) and work collectively with like-minded individuals towards a better future for this game. Remember that this is supposedly a [b]ten year[/b] project. We all really need to slow our roll and really take some time to think and work together if we have any chance of making an impact. I apologize to any of you who have taken this post out of context or already have decided I'm not worth listening to. That is your own opinion and you are surely entitled to do whatever you want with said opinion. In all seriousness my intention is only to bring all of us together so we can truly enjoy this game like it is meant to be enjoyed. Thank you so much for all of your input and feedback. I couldn't be more appreciative at the amount of different perspectives I have been graced with over the last 24 hours. [b][u]TL:DR[/u][/b] This is a copy/paste TLDR that I said in another conversation with another member. It comes down to this. Like I have stated before, this game is nowhere near perfect. It has its flaws. It needs changing and tweaking. The community as a collective whole can help this process however, we need to find a better way to voice our concerns and suggestions for improvements for this game rather than spew sewage from our mouths. Think about it like this. Currently this community is a room full of angry citizens that aren't getting the things they want. Think of bungie as the mayor sitting in on this room, trying to listen to the voice of the citizens. How is it going to be possible for the mayor to hear ANYONE in a room full of pissed off screaming people? They can't. We need to all take a seat, collect our thoughts, share our thoughts with each other, brainstorm said thoughts into a suggested solution and present those solutions to the mayor. At which point our voice has truly been heard. Whether or not the mayor decides to do anything with our suggestions is up to the mayor. But if we remain in that room and maintain order; eventually we will ALL come to a common ground. At which point the community and the developers can move forward, together. This relationship needs to be a two way street. Not a highway and a bike path.