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Изменено (Olafaloofian):
11/5/2015 10:50:23 PM
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Convince me that the Sunbreaker's armor is fair.
In case you all didn't know, a Sunbreaker can survive the following things while supering:
-High-Impact Sniper Headshot
-High-Impact Shotgun/Melee Combo
-Direct Rocket Hit
-Golden Gun Shot
-Two Blade Dance Swings
-Two Sword Hits
Compared to the other three "drain-over-time" supers, the armor on the Sunbreaker super totally outclasses all of them. I really don't get how it's fair.
I've heard it said that the balance of the Sunbreaker class is its low mobility. This is completely ludicrous. Titans using the "Increased Control Skate" method can literally catch up to any other class trying to run away.
I've also heard it said that Hammer of Sol is hard to hit people with. Again, completely false. Unless you're a n00b who doesn't know how to aim, all you have to do is enable tracking hammers, and the ridiculous aim assist and splash damage will take care of the rest. You don't even have to completely hit someone with the hammer for them to die.
Here are some reports from Bungie about Hammer of Sol over-performing:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155195608/0/0/1 - Sunbreakers have highest K/D
http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833 - Luke Smith says he does unnaturally good with Sunbreakers
So go ahead. Tell me how all this is fair. Simply saying is fair because it's apparently the "tank class" doesn't cut it (Bungie really hasn't created each class for a purpose like that). I'll reiterate. SAYING TITANS ARE THE SO-CALLED "TANK" CLASS IS NOT A GOOD ARGUMENT. If Destiny is set up to have the three traditional MMO classes, why aren't Hunters the fastest by far? Why isn't Warlock recovery near-instantaneous? Besides, in every other game I've ever played, a "Tank" can not deal out damage as fast as other classes. Titans get the best of both worlds- highest armor, quickest movement speed, and the best total-damage super in the game.
And if you say "ermahgersh but Sunbreekers hav bad neutral gayme", here's my response: http://youtu.be/pVd7UbfVrvI
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Whoops was that a suppressor grenade. Sry what super were we talking about
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Git Gud and you'll see its fair
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1 ответИзменено (Uhtred Bray): 10/30/2015 6:31:31 PMWhat Titans haven't survived from the ways I've dealt with them. Thou yard snipe head shot. Full clip from bad juju to the head. Shotgun, again to the head I think or to the body doesn't matter really, they died. A grenade and a melee hit. I'm sure there's one tow more ways I've killed them and I'm not even that good at pvp.
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7 отв.tank class is a weak argument. pvp is supposed to be balanced.
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1 ответI main a Titan and hope they nerf it so I don't see so many of these posts. It's getting old and Bungie knows your concerns already.
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5 отв.Well, a short nerf to the armor is a good thing. But just that.
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6 отв.Golden gun can 1 shot a sunbreaker btw
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1 ответYou whine about sunbreakers having an armor problem urging the 20 second super but you weren't whining when void walker warlocks with the ram could do the same thing at all times. -blam!- you dude.
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6 отв.Um I remember the blade dancers being the same so leave it
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Weapons of light with high impact sniper
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10 отв.If you can't out run a sunbreaker you need to hit the gym
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4 отв.Изменено (double tman13): 11/1/2015 10:57:55 PMTitans are tanks[spoiler]yes tanks CAN be mobile and do damage... [/spoiler]
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3 отв.I think the armor is fine, but cauterize is what amplifies the problem. What would happen if... • lower HoS from 55% to 50% • replace cauterize or forgemaster with a perk that increases HoS armor back to original. Good? Bad?
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They need to balance sunbreaker Im tired of arc blading 2 hits then blam hammer of sol
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8 отв.Sunsingers with Radiant Skin and Flame Shield can survive a direct rocket hit, and exactly the same things a Sunbreaker can survive. So why not?
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3 отв.He has a point. Tanks in MMO games have shit dps and high armor. Bad argument.
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It depends on if they are going for max armor. I have 1 hit plenty of sunbreakers with a sniper rifle and golden gun. All depends what subclass perks / gear they are running.
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Juggernaut on Striker can tank 2 golden gun shots,Defender bubble can tank 2 golden gun shots.
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3 отв.You're playing Mayhem You hear that distant -CLANK!- You see hammers destroying your team mates You can run or hide What do you do? [spoiler]You don't have to run or hide, btw[/spoiler]
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7 отв.Sunbreakers continue to destroy pubs and less skilled players. But aren't as good against good organized players. How do you balance it? Do you balance it around the less skilled players? Or do you keep it as is so it stands a chance a against good players that team shoot and no how to counter them? Because against skilled players, it's not as good as people complain that it is. Titans also don't have any type of quick moving or blink ability so we have to tank damage or we will be dead by the second target if we don't have cauterize.
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4 отв.Titans can't survive [i][u]two[/u][/i] golden gun shots you idiot. But I agree with everything else, good writing.
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1 ответY'all are taking this "tank" thing too far. It's not literally a tank, it's a guardian that can fly around dammit.
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1 ответTwo words Sleeper simulant
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I've killed em with shoulder charge at full health
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Pfft it's not. And I love it! I think it's hilarious that I can run around a corner, get domed by my friend who's using a still piercer, and just shrug it off, hammer him and regen my health! Pissing off my friends is fun :)
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3 отв.It's a super, why should they have the same health as someone who hasn't supered?
