They really do listen to or feedback! Im actually amazed. I truly am. I never thought Bungie would put any stock in what the entitled whiny middle school/high school kids say on these forums. But now it's obvious that they do, for they have granted all our wishes! [b]Community: I'm sick of doing the same ol' stuff in this game over and over. We want variety![/b] They've listened and given us a new game type! You may be disappointed that this isn't a raid, but do you have any idea what a big step this is in game expansion? This is huge! An entirely new game mode dedicated to PvE. Which leads me to my next point. [b]Community: enough PvP activities! We want more PvE content![/b] Well here you go guys. A whole new game mode. And stop being entitled. Don't act like they should have done more. How many of you have a clue just how much time it takes to create PvE content of this level? If you don't know, it takes a sickening amount of time. PvP is easy to throw out there. PvE is a different story. Knowing what goes into it, I'm actually surprised they're releasing content as quickly as they are. Try to get your head out of your ass for a second and realize that the game has hardly been out for 6 months!! You can't expect this to be a fully fledged MMO yet! These games take years before they take full form. Right now this game is a shell of what it will be. [b]Community: Crotas end is a shit raid. It's more of a long strike than a raid. We want more raids like VoG![/b] THIS reason right here is why we don't get a raid with this DLC. I have no doubt that Bungie had every intention to release a raid with HoW. But they said "we've been humbled by the community's raid reception." This means they've seen what we've been saying. They realize that we're not going to accept some so-so raid thrown together. Personally, I love this. We gave them out expectation on raids, and I'll bet my only Gjallarhorn that they looked at the raid they were going to release for HoW and said, "this isn't going to be good enough". That right there is community influence. The raid will be a lot better if we give them the time to do it right. And plus, unless I'm mistaken (which I very well could be) this means that'll we'll be getting 2 new raids in the fall! How exciting is that? [b]Community: we want to be able to upgrade our 300 weapons.[/b] Done. Can't wait to see the new upgrade paths. They admitted that they screwed up in the first DLC with the weapon upgrade path. Remember that Bungie has never made a game like this. It's more complicated than you think. They're going to make mistakes. There's going to be blunders. Get over it! They'll learn from it and the game will be better because of it. [b]Community: we want more vault space[/b] That's been given to you already, albeit, very little new space, but it's something. They say the issue is the number of items displayed on the screen. Maybe in the new reef social space, we might get a second vault? We'k ll have to wait and see. Moral of the story is, a lot of you are acting far too entitled. Understand that you're not a developer. You don't know what goes into the game, you don't know why decisions are made, and you have no qualification whatsoever to make judgements on this. This entitlement syndrome is disgusting. Just play the game and have fun. If you don't like it, then don't play. It's that simple. And make no mistake, Bungie "owes" you [b]nothing.[/b] They never promised anything because they knew they might have to change it. A raid was implied (because like I said I believe they had every intention of releasing a new raid), but it was never promised. Due to everyone's relentless impatience. They searched for leaks that got their hopes up and put unreasonable expectations on Bungie. Have fun going broke trying to sue a major company for something you think you're entitled to. If you're with me, please bump this post. I'd like to see who the people with a brain are in this community. I'd like to make friends with the humble dudes who just enjoy playing a game. Let's show Bungie that there's a section of their community that is rational and actually enjoys to use their brain. Because like I said, we know they're listening. Edit: WOW!!! I wrote this this morning and got no responses so I just wrote this post off as a good way to get my thoughts out. Come back later to tons of awesome feedback! Thank you guys for your kind words! You've rejuvenated my optimism for this community. Edit 2: A lot of you have brought up how Bungie hasn't earned much trust with their history of doing dumb things. I'm well aware of the shortcomings of this game, and the -blam!-ups that have happened along the way. I just think things are headed in the right direction. But no, they have proven nothing yet. Edit 3: Some others have pointed out that we don't know that the Prison of Elders all be a PvE activity, and are sketched out by the "cooperative 3 player activity" statement. I think we can use intuition to know that it will be PvE. Think about it. It says cooperative (co-op). What co-op game type has ever been PvP. None, because Player vs. Player doesn't exactly scream "cooperation" lol. No reason to get skeptical; this will be a PvE activity.