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4/9/2015 1:53:10 PM
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You looked at 2 stats. Now include accuracy, stability, the ability to land all of those shots and crits, suros healing perk, range, and the amount of "bounce" to an enemies screen. Yes, Suros is still better overall than the vex. No, it will not beat a vex at shotgun ranges. Yes, you are bad. No, you should not be crying nerf.
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Imo the balance system should be based on the TTk, if a weapon has a faster TTK than an average weapon it should have flaw that require you to be skilled to use it effectively! That's why Vex is ok now, with a RoF/impact so unbalanced and a headshoot multiplayer so over the average the "bullets spread" is the only thing that makes this gun really strong at certain ranges but not game breaker!
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You mean "optimal ttk", because that is what you are looking at, not "actual ttk", which also includes usability and average performance, not optimal damage numbers. Under "Optimal ttk" guns like No Land Beyond appear to be OP. You tell me if that seems right.
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Yeah optimal TTk, but that's actually a sniper rifle that works as a sniper rifle!
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But if you are talking about the "bullets spread" on Vex then yeah you're kinda right but I read that it'll be removed even tho I wasn't sure if they were talking about the ammo bug only or even about the bullets spread!
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Look, I have both maxed. Vex is a trophy gun. Suros is still better than vex. Always has been, even before vex was nerfed.
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Which nerf? You mean the last one right? Btw as I already said, Vex as it is now is still really strong from short/middle range and the nerf is the only thing that makes this gun balanced!
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Изменено (antifail): 4/9/2015 4:15:38 PMYour definition of balanced is silly. Vex is good inside of ranges where a shotgun will 1-hit. It can still be beaten by a suros at these ranges due to the MULTIPLE nerfs on the vex and the fact that suros jostles the opponents view whenever they are hit. There are many guns stronger than the vex and many guns weaker than the suros.
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I think you're exaggerating, I think Vex is fully effective from a range at least 10 time higher than a shotgun
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2 words: Felwinters Lie.
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Spread and the dropoff on vex is ridiculous. It got ninja-nerfed as a result of so many people bitching that it was op.
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Well it actually was OP before, the TTK was really fast and the stability really good! I can say it is balanced now but only if it will remain as it is since the headshoot's multiplier is really high! At least now this gun have finally a Fusion rifle's feature! Also a lot of people that use to complain about the Vex were Vex's owner, players just want this game fun and balanced, and not a game that reward shitty players with disgusting op weapons!
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Actually Vex's range is kinda the same and Vex's stability is a bit less than Suros but not that much!
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1. Take both guns to patrol. 2. stand 30 feet from a wall and equip vex. 3. Aim down sights and shoot your entire magazine. 4. Check clustering of fire pattern. 5. Equip Suros and repeat steps 3&4. 6. For additional shits and giggles, use a suros with focus fire upgrade and rapidly pull the trigger instead of holding it down. 7. Repeat testing from 50+ feet. 8. Laugh at the innaccurate vex.
