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10/31/2019 1:40:20 PM
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Disagree.
1. I think you are suffering from a bit of toxic nostalgia. Previous versions of this game simply were NOT as good as you are remembering. Other than the problems with the game's loot pool (mainly becuase of how shallow the weapon perk system still is)....this game is in the best shape it has ever been in . Both in terms of quantity and quality of content.
2. The game is transitioning to playing more like a traditional RPG. Which requires people rethink how they play...and what the end game is....and a LOT of people are struggling with that transition. Which is why Bungie is having to do this slowly....and in stages.
3. This game (Destiny 2) will never have dedicated servers because its game engine and networking code won't support their use. I believe Bungie is extending the life span of this game in order to buy themselves the time to change engines and dev tools so that "Destiny 3" will.
That is one of the advantage of having gotten themselves out from under the Activision contract.
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Every other studio that is of Bungie's size can easily handle multiple IPs. Bungie is now the same size as (if not larger than) studios like CD Projekt Red and BioWare. At one point the BioWare was working on Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, and Dragon Age 4 at the same time. Bungie is no longer the 200 employee semi-indie studio it was 10 years ago.
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작성자: TheShadow-cali 11/1/2019 1:01:40 PM[quote]Every other studio that is of Bungie's size can easily handle multiple IPs.[/quote] Then you just explained how lazy Bungie actually is if they can handle (multiple IPs) by saying they don't have the manpower to update the vendors at the tower among other things that what they said is total BS. Thanks, KG 👍
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작성자: TheArtist 11/1/2019 1:06:47 PMSwing and a miss again. Bungie is currently maintaining two games (Destiny 1 and 2). Developing new content for an existing game (Destiny 2)....and (despite their denials) I guarentee you they are working on the development of TWO new IPs. Destiny 3 and what ever this non-Destiny project their working on with NetEase is going to be. Bungie likes to tease what they're doing (there was an easter egg announcing Destiny embedded in teh game play of Halo Reach). That whiteboard was them letting us know where this franchise is going...and I promise you it isn't still playing this version of the game on these consoles in 2025. Bungie isn't stupid. You dont' get to their size, and their position in this industry----where studios are going out of business daily----by being stupid. They wouldn't have been so quick to break with Activision---and have to BUY OUT the last part of their contract with them----if Destiny 2 was the only iron they had in the fire. ....and Activision stockholders wouldn't have freaked out and destroyed one-eighth of Activision Blizzards total market capitalization in the process. Activision's stock STILL hasn't fully recovered.
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No no, you got it right, you said they could handle (multiple IPs ) and now you are trying to use D1 knowing they dropped that game and maybe once a year do some maintenance 🤦♂️ You dumb messed up KG, have a nice day 😂
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Smh. You're smarter than that. They are not producing new CONTENT for Destiny 1. That doesn't mean that the game no longer requires MAINTENANCE. Because there are very much people still playing that game....and they still have to fix things that break....and maintain the servers so that the game doesn't break. ...and it is MUCH more frequent than "once a year". So, no I didn't "mess up". You are deliberately minimizing the work necessary to simply keep a game like this RUNNING.
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...And once a year doing maintenance doesn't take months knowing it's small petty things they do maintenance on, because D1 was left in a mess with a hell of a lot of things they never fixed. HogWash, they announce when they do maintenance on D1 and since D2 released it's been 3 to most. Unless you can prove me wrong, and if so I will stand corrected???
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작성자: TheArtist 11/2/2019 2:56:43 PMThe proof the pudding is in the eating. There is a reason why no one has been able to dethrone World of Warcraft in over 15 years. There is a reason why BioWare and Massive not only aren’t doing this kind of game better than Bungie, they aren’t doing anywhere near as well. Even Borderlands 3 that Bungie was supposed to be so afraid of has its own end-game flat tires and an unhappy community. Stand back and look with an UNBIASED eye, and you can’t swing a dead cat and miss the proof. IF IT WERE SO EASY TO DO A BETTER JOB THAN BUNGIE IS DOING AT A CHEAPER PRICE POINT, ONE OF THEIR COMPETITORS WOULD BE DOING IT.. ...and we’d all be playing that game. But one after another they’ve all tried and are failing. Why? :))
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[quote]The proof the pudding is in the eating. There is a reason why no one has been able to dethrone World of Warcraft in over 15 years. There is a reason why BioWare and Massive not only aren’t doing this kind of game better than Bungie, they aren’t doing anywhere near as well. Even Borderlands 3 that Bungie was supposed to be so afraid of has its own end-game flat tires and an unhappy community. Stand back and look with an UNBIASED eye, and you can’t swing a dead cat and miss the proof. IF IT WERE SO EASY TO DO A BETTER JOB THAN BUNGIE IS DOING AT A CHEAPER PRICE POINT, ONE OF THEIR COMPETITORS WOULD BE DOING IT.. ...and we’d all be playing that game. But one after another they’ve all tried and are failing. Why? :))[/quote] As I said, no proof at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9GuwuOVZc
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작성자: TheShadow-cali 11/2/2019 4:00:05 PMThis isn't other games and the truth about D2 is that Bungie's manpower is working on a game that has nothing to do with D2 at all. This is why D2 is a mess and that is literally a fact you can not deny. Oh, and you're the one that used the Eververse team as an excuse on why things like the venders haven't been updated when in fact Bungie said they didn't have the manpower to update them. On top of it, the coding for Eververse gear is the same as the rest of the gear in this game, so instead of Bungie actually using their brain, they waste that talent on literally hundreds of stupid ghosts, ships and sparrows when that team could actually be creating just gear alone for the game. This company is so mismanaged that it's pathetic... Edit: Truth hurts huh?
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[quote]REALITY IS WHATEVER I SAY IT IS!!! No, Odin, it isn’t.[/quote] Sorry silly, you can't fight facts that are right in front of your face. Have a nice day, oh, and them caps still don't make anything you say anymore "important" 😂
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작성자: TheArtist 11/2/2019 4:22:56 PMWho is fighting facts? Bungie just took BOTH games down for maintenance last week? I occasionally still play Destiny 1, and know that there are still people who play the game. Because I encounter them. So I know that your assertion that Bungie has abandon that game is patently false. But I know you and your agenda well enough that I’m not going to waste my time tracking down facts that you’ll ignore like you always do. The beauty of Capitalism, Odin, is that competition drives out INEFFICIENCY. So the fact is that if it were so easy to make a better game-or-games than Bungie at a cheaper price..... One their competitors would exploit Bungie’s lack of efficiency and do it. Because there would be a shit ton of money it.
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작성자: TheArtist 11/2/2019 4:32:29 PMYou don’t care about this game. You just care about using it as a pretext to bash Bungie. In the five years I’ve been here I have never seen you every give Bungie any positive feedback, defend any decision they’ve made, or ever try to look at any situation from their perspective. No real person or organization is ever ALWAYS wrong... and anyone who suggests that one always is, is operating in bad faith. A rational person who actually cared about the game experience who has been as categorically negative as you have been would have stopped playing years ago. Which suggests your “payoff” for remaining here is something else....
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[quote]You don’t care about this game. You just care about using it as a pretext to bash Bungie. In the five years I’ve been here I have never seen you every give Bungie any positive feedback, defend any decision they’ve made, or ever try to look at any situation from their perspective. A rational person who actually cared about the game experience who has been as categorically negative as you have been would have stopped playing years ago. Which suggests your “payoff” for remaining here is something else....[/quote] This is my last reply, I was going to leave it alone, but get a grip of yourself, you're embarrassing yourself with (false claims that you literally have no proof of at all) especially knowing you can't read minds over the net. So please stop before you dig yourself a bigger hole.
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작성자: TheArtist 11/2/2019 4:44:36 PMI’m not embarrassing myself Odin. Because anyone who actually plays this game, and keeps up on the news on this game knows that what I’m saying is true. Like i said they did server maintenance on Destiny 1 JUST LAST WEEK. All you have to do is look at Bungie’s Twitter feed to know that. But clearly you didn’t bother. The reality is that you no longer play this game enough or stay engaged with it enough to know that. You are simply “demanding proof” as a rhetorical ploy. I’ve simply seen this fire from you enough that I’m simply not going to waste my time waving at smoke and just went straight to the bucket of ice water. You are on the verge of simply becoming a troll...and I’m trying to point that out to you (if you even care) before you sink to that level.
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They were operating under time pressure from the Activision contract....and they only got ONE year of additional time. It takes about 3-5 years to develop a new engine....and probably about 2 years to convert a studio to working wtih an existing one.
