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작성자: Kell of Kellogs
2/25/2019 1:29:30 AM
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작성자: TattooedOni 2/25/2019 5:49:16 AMWell March 5th and 50 light levels are right around the corner to drain them again. Don’t worry though I’ve been told the real D2 endgame is spending hours buying junk from spider and trading it to brother Vance to squeeze out an RNG amount of cores. You can make a whole 5 an hour if you put your back into it.
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Over and over people create posts asking Bungie to remove enhancement cores from infusion costs. This posts are heavily upvoted with support from players who agree and want them removed. They get between 300-1000 upvotes even thought there is a segment of the population who insist that D2 must be the boring hardcore grindfest that they like. Those people down vote then comment that there is nothing wrong with the core economy. They say that by not “wasting cores infusing your gear while reaching level cap” and using the easy method of farming cores through spider” its not a problem.
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What is your endgame cycle? I am genuinely curious. I see the posts, don't worry. I am not advocating the system. I am trying to find out why there is such disparity. Why do so many have a problem getting cores, while so few do. My endgame cycle consists primarily of scrolling the lfg and joining "help me do x" fireteams. I receive plenty of cores through this playstyle and have multiple masterworked weapons (and arnor for what it's worth)and infuse and masterwork freely. I raided three times this weekend, [i]on one character[/i] and only received rewards once. I don't "go outside my play cycle" to get cores, because I play with literally anyone doing anything. So if you (generally, not specifically) aren't raiding, what does your cycle consist of? Weekly resets and then that's it? That isn't a lot of time invested, for the time investment crowd. This game is by no means perfect and needs desperate changes. I am simply trying to understand what the issue is.
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When I was still playing daily I was doing my milestones then helping my clan mates. That was playing 6+ hours every day. I am in the top 3% for playtime in D2. The past two weeks I haven’t played very often because I’m bored with the game so I’m playing other stuff. Throughout Forsaken I have almost never had more than 50 cores at any one time. I have never masterworked armor. I do masterwork new well rolled weapons I get because I want to be able to experiment with them in game and not miss out on orbs/tracking/bonus stats.
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I am top 2% on time wasted, and I took a long break after BA dropped. You don't seem to have too much of an issue with cores then, we have similar amounts. So what is your issue with cores for infusion and masterworking? If people aren't spending time playing the game (because they don't enjoy it, which is [i]okay, so play another game?[/i]) then why would you expect to get a "rare resource". The issue here is rarity and necessity, yes (deliberate throttling aside)? I just wish they had more of an impact and were reworkable. Use them to change stats or perks on weapons and armor. Maybe have the 100k Nightfall, all Weekly Challenges, and raid completions reward decent amounts. Have some challenging and engaging bounties from Xur. Hell, have Xur trade them cheaply in [i]spite[/i] of Spiders prices. Weekend bounties and they disappear. Would that provide enough cores?
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Seems like the simple and effective way to fix the economy is just remove them from infusion cost. That is where progression is being throttled. If people only had to use planetary materials and legendary shards to infuse it wouldn’t hurt anyone and it would improve the enjoyment of the game for many. It’s a simple win win.
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That [u]would[/u] be simple. And probably a necessary change, and I would be for it if the improvements for masterworking anything were reworkable and more beneficial. My questions come from not understanding how so many cannot find enough cores. If all someone is doing is weekly resets, and then getting off, they don't deserve to find "rare" resources( again, deliberate throttling aside). Weekly resets take only a few hours to complete. Hardly time invested. I understand people don't like grinding the content, like I do, playing with everyone that needs a hand. That is their taste of game, and this game isn't for them. I understand that not everyone can raid, but then what are they doing if not repeating content? Not completing bounties? Are they just running around aimlessly? Staring at their vault? Teabagging in the Crucible? I want to know their endgame cycle. How are they spending their time, how much time, and what makes the disparity in the amount of cores between players?
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I think that’s a bad way to look at it, asking players to justify their play cycle instead of just observing the sheer number of players who aren’t satisfied with the current system. Even people who don’t hate it aren’t really usually happy with it.
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Maybe, but why would you get stuff if you aren't playing the game? That is all I am wondering. Yeah there is crap rng. Yeah there are bad systems in place. The people that have done 70+ completions of Last Wish like the Russian guy and still don't have 1K Voices are getting screwed. If Joe Shmoe gets on for three hours and does a flashpoint and three strikes and doesn't get anything and cries, well, go play Mario.
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Oh I see, you think you’re elite so your opinion matters more than someone else 👍🏻👍🏻. I understand now. Bad systems are bad and need to be changed. I don’t have enough cores, and have made a remove cores from infusion post. I have more hours logged than 97% of all other players. If any of them want to complain they the system is bad and should be changed I support them.
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I said nothing about being elite Mr. Top 3%, and damn sure do not think I am. I simply play the game and want to know other playstyles. I am comparing, to get a better understanding. I even agreed that bad systems exist and need changing. Why is my curiosity about general player activity to receive an item an issue? If someone doesn't like playing the content to get items, [i]then why are they playing this game?[/i]
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[quote]If Joe Shmoe gets on for three hours and does a flashpoint and three strikes and doesn't get anything and cries, well, go play Mario.[/quote] I don’t claim my playtime is special, but I did use it to respond to you questioning if my play is consistent with what you consider to be “the right way” to play the game. Your quoted response above reveals your elitist mentality AND is not how I play, but I still give feedback to Bungie they should remove cores from infusion.
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작성자: RootilyTootToot 2/25/2019 10:39:38 PMThat isn't an elitist attitude. If someone barely plays the game, why would they get "rare items"? Exotics aren't exotic if they drop every hour or every day. Cores aren't rare if they come from every source. RNG issues, duplicate issues, and deliberate throttling are problems, yes. There is no "right way" to play the game. What is so hard to understand about me simply wanting to [i]compare playstyles[/i]. I do not and have not dictated or given instructions on how to play, I have only asked what other people are doing. My way of playing has been stated; I help [u]anyone do anything[/u]. If that makes me an elitist then we are all fūcked. Edit: If a person [i]does[/i] play often and is still lacking cores, then I am very interested in what they play. Why is that so difficult to answer, and why is that such a private matter. How much time is put in, what is that time invested into, and why are drop rates so different that two groups exist?
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[quote]Don’t worry though I’ve been told the real D2 endgame is spending hours buying junk from spider and trading it to brother Vance to squeeze out an RNG amount of cores. You can make a whole 5 an hour if you put your back into it.[/quote]
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I traded 1500 seeds to Br.Vance for 5 cores yesterday. But hey, at least he gave me back most of my shards so I could have the privilege of doing it all over again. RNG is a shit way to build a stockpile for that upcoming climb to 700.
