I play Borderlands too, it IS my favorite game, alot of memories and time spent on 1 and 2, not so much pre-sequal. You are right, borderlands your guns became obsolete, but they also didnt have a built in feature to re-roll the weapon you had spending potentially large amounts of time into getting the perfect roll. You did not upgrade your weapons either. I'm made, because in introducing these features, and also introducing ascending weapons just one dlc prior to this TTK news, it makes you think that you will be able to, because why would you not, they added a game changing mechanic and already have RPG elements on the weapons as I previously stated. While upgrading a weapon doesnt take long, re-rolling it for your idel roll can and does, especially when doing it on many weapons, it awakens the grind, you need to get materials to do this so you go back into the things you wouldn't be doing for any other reason than obtaining these materials. So while I agree that this is not a new feature to MMO's, FPS or RPGS, that is not really the issue here or why people are so upset.