[quote][quote]For the love of god bungie fix this, or every scrub under the sun will be walking around with a vex mythoclast and raid helmets! I would suggest making it where anyone who kills atheon gets no rewards till they finish the rest of the vault of glass, and if they glitch him off the map, respawn him with full health. That'll learn em. Also there is the matter of people duplicating the save for atheon, load the boss fight, have scrubs join, then leave. Now they have the save there too... Then they pass it off to their scrub friends. i know of tons of people beating the hard raid this way, and it makes my accomplishments feel hollow and pointless. Why should i bother to play as you intended if these losers are just getting rewarded for cheating? There are many of us who feel this way, the hardcore gamers wish to be heard and acknowledged.[/quote] You sound upset that you haven't thought of it yourself. I've beaten Aetheon both ways and in all honesty I like pushing him off the cliff more because it's a time saver. See what I did there? I made a joke. Time saver. Ha Ha I kill. Honestly I rather take 10mins to push him off then 2 hours to kill him.[/quote] Also, you only have one level 30, and the rest of your slots are an 11 and like 6. How are you a hardcore player? I have 2 slots fully maxed with all the exotics except 2. You sound more like someone that beat Aetheon once for the gear, and then got made cause you found out you did it the hard way. They're not scrubs or cheaters for it, they're just smart.