Trust me, if there were a more well known and smaller word for ignorance, I would have used it. The most obvious issue with what you're saying is that somehow not having mm will stop the mode from being dumbed down, as you say. As if it weren't the same people playing. If that's going to happen then it will happen regardless of mm being there.

[quote]The most obvious issue with what you're saying is that somehow not having mm will stop the mode from being dumbed down, as you say. As if it weren't the same people playing. If that's going to happen then it will happen regardless of mm being there.[/quote] There's a fundamental difference in the behavior of people with the presence of raid MM, and the behavior of people without the presence of raid MM. This difference is the defining factor in how Bungie approaches later raid content, or how they will balance current raid content during patches. People with raid MM expect to be spoon-fed. They don't expect to work and fight to complete raids. Simply put, they aren't raiders. They don't understand or refuse to accept what is necessary to complete raids. They'll come onto the forums and complain about not being able to experience the content because the majority of people that queue up in raid MM are incompetent. This will lead to nerfs. There will be far less complaints without MM present. If playing with people you actual communicate with and have experience playing with you'll be more likely to tough it out, strategize, or just learn how to do the raid. Then Bungie won't have to consider dumbing down the experience for the rest of us. You act like similar situations have never happened before. Sounds pretty ignorant to me.