I partially agree with you when it comes to raids. I agree with the dungeon take also. Im taking into consideration the other activities in the game that you also have to grind for, things like seasonal events that focus heavily on fomo and the countless other things you may want to grind for. I think you and your group of friends are really great at the game to beat gm in a 15 minute average for most grandmasters. But wouldn’t it be nice to get at least 2 weapon drops instead of 1 and a bunch of useless world drops. Then on double day you maybe you get 4 drops but double day would be less frequent. Then you could heavily focus farming weapons for all perks instead of maybe just two. Most player take farm the two main perks and call it a day while some others like myself farm for the weapon attachments along with the perfect perks. With the raids. 6-7 weeks for one raid to possibly get all red boarders (if it has red boarders) and not get multiple duplicates like whats going on with the new exotic class items right now. I think what you’re saying makes sense but only in some of the most perfect scenarios. 6-7 then take into account the amount of raids and other time consuming activities you have in the game with new content constantly being added into the game also, challenges, titles, new weapons, armor, etc. I know my post was about grand master nightfall, dungeons and raids but part of the reason I want higher loot drop is because of all the other time consuming activities that also require farming to obtain certain rolls including weapon attachments being perfect with the weapon perks. There have been weeks when all I get is armor from raids or dungeons. Its even more frustrating when I have multiple sets of that armor and I’m looking for a specific weapon drop especially in dungeons. I know everyone doesn’t try to farm every new event etc but I know at least I try to farm everything and test out all the weapons and try new weapon perks for my builds because I love to build craft.

[quote]I'm taking into consideration the other activities in the game that you also have to grind for, things like seasonal events that focus heavily on fomo and the countless other things you may want to grind for. [/quote] Sure if you really want to grind everything it's a lot. I'm only getting all red borders and those weapons that I'd really use. And when it comes to events I get my guaranteed Memento and then just leave it be. [quote]I think you and your group of friends are really great at the game to beat gm in a 15 minute average for most grandmasters. But wouldn’t it be nice to get at least 2 weapon drops instead of 1 and a bunch of useless world drops. Then on double day you maybe you get 4 drops but double day would be less frequent. Then you could heavily focus farming weapons for all perks instead of maybe just two. Most player take farm the two main perks and call it a day while some others like myself farm for the weapon attachments along with the perfect perks.[/quote] I gotta be honest it's been some time since I last grinded a GM weapon. The recent once have just been really bad. My last one probably was Wendigo right before Lightfall when it was double loot on Warden of Nothing. Let's say you take it a bit slower and a run is 20mins. You would still have 6 drops per hours which I think is pretty good. Obviously if you want -blam!- roll it might take a lot of time. But grinding for 5/5 rolls is just something for your own inner monk. No one really needs 5/5 rolls in PvE. I've done all recent contest raids and not even there you need more than the 2 main perks and maybe the mag. [quote]With the raids. 6-7 weeks for one raid to possibly get all red boarders (if it has red boarders) and not get multiple duplicates like whats going on with the new exotic class items right now.[/quote] Gotta agree the classitem situation is bs. I'm on console and can't use a macro so I'm currently just ignoring the classitem completely. But luckily we've gotten duplicate protection on red borders a long time ago. [quote]I think what you’re saying makes sense but only in some of the most perfect scenarios. 6-7 then take into account the amount of raids and other time consuming activities you have in the game with new content constantly being added into the game also, challenges, titles, new weapons, armor, etc.[/quote] Of course you have to manage your time a bit. For me stuff like raids where I need multiple players always come first. And if I got some more time after I've done those I grind solo stuff like titles. [quote]I know my post was about grand master nightfall, dungeons and raids but part of the reason I want higher loot drop is because of all the other time consuming activities that also require farming to obtain certain rolls including weapon attachments being perfect with the weapon perks. There have been weeks when all I get is armor from raids or dungeons. Its even more frustrating when I have multiple sets of that armor and I’m looking for a specific weapon drop especially in dungeons. [/quote] I do have to agree with you on dungeons. They just aren't worth the time. Pretty much the only weapon I could come up with that I don't have but would really like to have is the GotD rocket. But just getting the 2 main perks is less than a 1% chance on the first boss which also is very hard to even one phase. Some goes for the rocket sidearm from WR. It's a lot faster to grind but still takes ages. I was happy when I heard that were getting a craftable energy rocket sidearm this episode. Maybe they could ad some kind of loot focusing to dungeons because I also kinda don't want them to have red borders.

You know whats funny? I have been trying to get those perks on that ghost of the deep rocket for a long time and not getting it after playing ghost of the deep probably 40 times or more is what inspired me to make my post. I always felt that way but ghost of the deep is what pushed me to make the post. You didnt like the new linear fusion that came out? The strand one? They also have a very interesting high impact frame rocket launcher called the breytech osprey. It can get envious assassin and lasting impression together. I finally got one for my titan that ill use with hazardous propulsion. The new auto rifle is ok too. You can get volt shot with one for all and a few other interesting perks. Volt shot makes one for all easier to activate.