[quote]no streamer asked for a forced power deficit in nightfalls and patrols genius[/quote] Are you really incapable of seeing the bigger picture here? Just because they didn't ask for something specifically, doesn't mean they didn't influence it. If I were you I'd edit out that "genius" part lest you fold in half from irony.

it is true that many streamers and hardcore players alike have asked for the game to be OPTIONALLY more challenging at the highest level and where it is appropriate. Some easy examples include master raids force underlevelling you, dungeons with selectable difficulty (master is good but GM dungeons is also something that people have wanted) and contest being an option on all raids throughout the entire year and not just on day 1. No one asked for patrols and playlist activities to be harder and pretty much everyone who asked for endgame content to be optionally more difficult has been vehemently outspoken against the "bringing challenge back to destiny" update as a whole... because thats not what they, or anyone wanted. That update was a demonstration of how blatantly out of touch bungie is with everyone, including streamers and hardcore players. Literally nobody of any level of commitment to the game asked for that or anything remotely like it.

[quote]it is true that many streamers and hardcore players alike have asked for the game to be OPTIONALLY more challenging at the highest level and where it is appropriate. Some easy examples include master raids force underlevelling you, dungeons with selectable difficulty (master is good but GM dungeons is also something that people have wanted) and contest being an option on all raids throughout the entire year and not just on day 1. No one asked for patrols and playlist activities to be harder and pretty much everyone who asked for endgame content to be optionally more difficult has been vehemently outspoken against the "bringing challenge back to destiny" update as a whole... because thats not what they, or anyone wanted. That update was a demonstration of how blatantly out of touch bungie is with everyone, including streamers and hardcore players. Literally nobody of any level of commitment to the game asked for that or anything remotely like it.[/quote] None of that matters, they wanted the game more difficult. They got what they asked for. Stop defending them, it's cringe.

if you think making patrols and playlist activities harder than raids was done because hardcore players asked for optional difficulty increases in endgame content i have no idea what to tell you other than your critical thinking skills are just really bad sadly because that is not only not what anyone asked for but the complete opposite of what anyone asked for