Just delete the damn smg and end this....even mine. Another halfass bungie thiught up idea to make pvp look like its worth a crap and requires skill. Only one to benefit were the recovery companies and streamers who work for them.

Ironically, frostbolt is now complaining about well of radiance in IB, demanding it be nerfed and that it's "way worse than Immortal spam". Clowns. Clowns everywhere.

I'm still upset they lobbied to have Xur removed from the map, just so they could get weekly clicks on their "Where is Xur" videos. 😣

streamers will be the death of destiny, just look how bad it is now with us being grossly under powered on legendary end game events, and all this is because they moaned about it being too easy, it is if all you have to do all day is sit and play games learning spawn patterns and de-buffs/buffs and builds ffs

I’m just waiting for not just streamers because I quite frankly don’t get into that loud bull with them. But them and a few other people complain about the new Mercy card changes coming to season 20-21 and so on. Where you can essentially have two losses if you haven’t gone flawless this week and your card will not be flawed until that third loss. So I can lose two games and still be able to get flawless if I don’t lose anymore games. And man I just want to say that will come in handy for a lot of people and I find it as a good addition. But I’m just waiting for those complainers to do their complaining when the time comes. It’s inevitable I tell you.

After Greppo and Div there's a concerning amount of "content creators" trying their hardest to influence the future of the game to their tastes. Couldn't agree more with op and their sentiment of us players, curving the platform we give them with our views. Its to the point now that you can't share findings with other players without them rebutting that, "if you were right about xyz, it'd be up on youtube".

Streamer life cycle/playbook: 1) make “concerned” video about state of destiny PvP and lack of rewards until bungie drops something busted into the game. Also blame it on skill based matchmaking. 2) make hype video about new op reward (game is saved!) 3) make videos about farming new op rewards. Complain about sbmm. 4) make videos about how to combine op rewards with toxic broken builds 5) when lobbies are full of op reward and toxic builds, make video about how new op reward is breaking the game. “Why did bungie do this 😤!!!” Also blame it on skill based matchmaking. 6) make video suggesting an array of nerfs 7) deploy smug face 😏 8) make video about how nerfs have affected the game 9) make “concerned” video about state of destiny PvP and lack of rewards until bungie drops something busted into the game.

Streamer are all trash and toxic. They will sell their grandma for views.

Please understand....streamers have to do this, otherwise how else can they get your attention so they can tell you about RAID: Shadow Legends!

Streamers "This gun is super good omg!" Also streamers " Too many people have my gun now and best me, plz nerf."

Not the streamers fault lmao what? Why cant you blame bungie gun designers for seeing Ikelos smg break pvp and lead the weekly kills by a huge margin and deciding "Here, i know what we need, an smg in the same archetype, in the KINETIC SLOT (better energy specials!!), with MORE range, and a perk that literally turns the ttk of the gun into an msmc from black ops 2". That is not anyones fault but the people who make the game for making a complete lapse in judgment and ability to understand balancing. If nobody exposed how good the gun was right away, absolute best case scenario it would have taken a couple weeks or so AT MOST for people to realize how good it was just from playing and then we'd have the exact same experience as this past weekend the next time the gun is available. But even then, even just in one weekend, people would have realized they were getting destroyed and would have gone out and gotten it regardless. I personally knew the gun was going to completely break the game as soon as the API updated and I went on gunsmith to see the possible rolls on the new guns. Could not believe they would add that. Didnt need to watch a youtube video or play the game at all and i could see this exact scenario coming from a mile away. The self serving bias to pin the blame for the immortal situation on streamers and paint the narrative like this is absolutely deranged. Just assign the accountability where it is deserved, not sure why that is so hard. This room temperature IQ post at the top of trending blows my mind.

Problem is bungie is always gonna pander to them because streamers provide there free publicity. It's not the first time they've lead to nerfs in the game and it'll be far from the last.

The game is still sooooo easy…gEt GuD! Says the 1830 streamer to the 1815 player. It’s a skill issue…sure it is.🤣

Yet Im beating them in fights with my Suros....