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11/5/2022 6:50:49 PM
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I’m not saying the meta is the same for both. They have their separate metas.
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you should have worded your previous post a bit differently to maybe say something like "Usage in high end content is an indication of meta [b]FOR[/b] both pve and pvp" or something to indicate that you were refering to high end Pve and high end pvp being a good reference for their respective areas. On another note, the data from trials report still isn't very useful because it cuts out the K/D brackets which will likely have the highest population.
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[quote]On another note, the data from trials report still isn't very useful because it cuts out the K/D brackets which will likely have the highest population.[/quote] It is very useful. If the top teams are using (insert OP build here) then guess what? The rest of the population will follow suite, because (insert OP build here) is netting wins for the best players. https://twitter.com/TrialsReport/status/1587531970997022720
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Sir.Cabbageにより編集済み: 11/5/2022 10:54:23 PMthose stats use 1.5k players. According to a previous tweet by trials report the population of trials was 193,857. What this means is that the data you are using is missing 99.23% of the population, meta or not there is a HUGE chance that the class distribution is much different than in .77% of the population. There is also a good chance that 99.23% of the population are staring at what the other .77% are doing and just copying them. the more people try to use the statistics from trials report as a big "gotcha" the more I find out how stupid those stats are.
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Stats aren't stupid, or dumb. They are just numbers.. Numbers don't lie. No one ever said "these stats are for the whole population". They are the stats for THE best teams with THE best win rate. There is no gotchya, it just is what it is. All I'm saying is, these numbers are useful, it shows what THE best players use. If someone wants to win, they are going to use what works. What ever works best, nets the most wins. It's useful to see what is working, and what isn't working.
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I never said stats as a whole are stupid or dumb, I said these ones in particular shouldn't be what people use as an argument for buffs and nerfs. you said "The rest of the population will follow suite" which implies that those stats persist for the whole population. It's not useful to use the top .77% of players as a basis for nerfs because these are the type of people that will likely be good with whatever they use.
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[quote]It's not useful to use the top .77% of players as a basis for nerfs[/quote] When did I ever say it would be useful as a basis for nerfs. I only ever said the numbers are useful. More specifically I said: [quote]It's useful to see what is working, and what isn't working.[/quote] You can't claim I say something and use that to fuel an argument, when it is not something I ever said. I believe you can do better than that man. Since you bring up nerfs, Bungie has said they look at trials and survival when deciding balance, because that is where the outliers shine. The specifics on what they look at is anyone's guess, but I'm sure the numbers shown from the winning teams is not lost on them. Anyway you want to cut it, the masses will copy what is working for top tier teams, because it works. I'm sorry if you can't see that.
