bruh....... guess you havent see someone close the distance with TTD or cryoclasm with shotguns or fusion rifles lmao what a stupid statement "its on you to adapt" get real, bungie has a problem and it isnt the players problem. Movement in this game especially for a few options are way to quick so saying "engage at further distances" is beyond dumb, its easier for someone to close in on you than it is for you to disengage the distance from them because guess what? that requires you to step backwards or outright avoid the engagement when he has full LoS of you to push you further. He will ALWAYS have the advantage in this situation over you period, all because they can see "how you engage or disengage" thus can push you accordingly, you could maybe bait the guy into a trap (done it a couple times) but generally its suicide to disengage or step backwards when someone is pushing you because of how quick it is for them to close in on you, might as stand your ground and go for the kill (which is what many do) Shotguns and Fusions shouldnt have effectively a 0 TTK when in there range spot because there is simply zero counter to this god awful play style (shotguns are the biggest problem for this) Fusions are not too bad as the require pre-emptive thinking on charge up before pushing. But personally Ide be OK upping shotgun range, giving them 4 special ammo at the cost of not letting them OHK period even at point blank.

[quote]bruh....... guess you havent see someone close the distance with TTD or cryoclasm with shotguns or fusion rifles lmao what a stupid statement "its on you to adapt" get real, bungie has a problem and it isnt the players problem. Movement in this game especially for a few options are way to quick so saying "engage at further distances" is beyond dumb, its easier for someone to close in on you than it is for you to disengage the distance from them because guess what? that requires you to step backwards or outright avoid the engagement when he has full LoS of you to push you further.[/quote] Yes. If something is constantly killing you it is on you to find the solution. How could you not understand that? If your running a GM and you keep dying at the same exact spot over and over and over do you keep doing that same thing? Course not. You change up the gameplan. Because what you were doing clearly isn’t working. Shotguns and fusions are not hard to counter. Create distance and pepper them out of range. People shut down shotguns all the time. Why are you acting like it’s impossible? If your unable to think of a counter to a shotgun then it’s not a game issue it’s a skill issue. It means you are either incapable of thinking of a counter attack or your just not skilled enough to pull it off.