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You realize tlaloc was class exclusive... right? That was the gimmick, cause us sunbros. Only reason AoS came back was to kill off Cayde, lol. Plus their HC addiction. Hopefully it stays that way. I run either nova or well, so I still hoard. You hunters and titans seem to be the super spammers by my experiences... but what do I know?
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Oooh, one exotic for one tree for one scenario. Warlocks by default, in more ways than one, hoard supers. Either for support roles like well, or mass wipe/boss dps. None of the roamers do a crazy amount of anything, add clear at best. Let's not forget they are seemingly the most pooped on class... especially in exotics.
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Funny you say that when a landslide of the community disagrees, of all class mains. Locks have some of the worst and pointless exotics in the game, and continue to do so. Hell, one is only active after death which benefits nothing. It has been a running thing since D2 launched. You honestly just sound like a salty hunter main sitting on a high horse at this point (especially with other replies in consideration). I'm not even going to go there in response to all that nonsense, as it's off the topic at hand.
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Most of the community knows warlocks have good exotics. Its only the select few who think they are not. That exotic where you say is only usefull on death gives you faster rift regeneration when you get low on health...which is every gunfight. Also...if you ask a warlock to give you the name of the exotic they think is too weak they wont give you names...because they know everyone who even has half a brain can create a build out of that exotic. The only warlock exotic that is bad is aeon.....and SKULL of dire ahamkara ATM. Every other exotic on them is good. Name a few you think are bad....i bet you cant...like every other biased warlock.
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Where to begin: Stag- useful in minute situations, vastly better options. Rift recharge replaced with better options. Ahamkara- useless all around. Aeons- useless if solo, even then significantly better options Alchemy used to be useless. Starfire- fusions are an inferior grenade type, solars/bracers are drastically better. Wings- useless, especially when running the proper tree. Vesper- useless in most situations, again, better rift based exotics. Phoenix- was good, but neutered beyond need. Geomag- minute to the point it's not needed, int spec is more useful. Traversive- useless, just useless. Ooh, sprint speed and a perk I can get in a mod. Astrocyte- pvp use exclusively, and even then it's better off being a different exotic. Stormdancer- damage is minute, better to use crown. All in all, quite a few that are outclassed, useless, a waste of a slot, or replaced by a simple perk/mod. Why tf would I invest in a "perfect build" to support crap when I can play as I want with a useful exotic? This isn't warframe, you can't just quick slot a set for every occasion and item.
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G0lden Hunt3rにより編集済み: 8/23/2020 6:47:11 PMWrong on all. Phoenix is guarenteed 70-80% super back easily. Starfire is really good because fusions are good. 2x fusion....1 fusion kill= rift back...3 hits in a rift recharged a fusion nade. Geomags almost double the damage chaos reach causes and cut a minute off your charge time. Transversive autoload energy weapons and increase run and slide and jump. And make you crouch as fast as you normally walk. You are just completely biased.
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[quote]Wrong on all. Phoenix is guarenteed 70-80% super back easily. Starfire is really good because fusions are good. 2x fusion....1 fusion kill= rift back...3 hits in a rift recharged a fusion nade. Geomags almost double the damage chaos reach causes and cut a minute off your charge time. Transversive autoload energy weapons and increase run and slide and jump. And make you crouch as fast as you normally walk. You are just completely biased.[/quote] Bias, from a lock main, suuure. You are using old numbers. Phoenix USED to do that, now you are lucky to get half, seeing they put a cap on it. Fusions are still crap. Why use one sticky and kill maybe a couple, when I can toss a long lasting one for both more dps and kill potential? Lol at cutting a minute off, what world do you live in? I've compared side by side with a friend a while back, not that much a difference. Ooooh, su amazing! I can crouch walk normal speed! God, so necessary for life! What ever can I do without that...
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Crouching removes you from radar. That is why. And no...phoenix still gives 70-80% easily. The cap is 80%. And sure you can kill a few with a firebolt or solar nade...but for every 1 solar nade you will have about 20 fusion nades with starfire....and that can also mean 20 overshield nades. You are just proving that you dont think before you write stuff down.
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[quote]Crouching removes you from radar. That is why. And no...phoenix still gives 70-80% easily. The cap is 80%. And sure you can kill a few with a firebolt or solar nade...but for every 1 solar nade you will have about 20 fusion nades with starfire....and that can also mean 20 overshield nades. You are just proving that you dont think before you write stuff down.[/quote] Oh I do. Check my prof, idgaf about anything pvp based. I make my decisions on pve applications, and what is best for slot. I would rather use something I need over some stupid mobility boost. Look through the forums over the last year. Tons of topics on the matter. You keep that high horse of yours on the original topic at hand, just accept your word is not law and there are more useless exotics per slot, which are either overshadowed by better or flat out useless. Your seemingly forced opinions are just annoying. Go ahead and keep bolstering your ego, but note by taking this off topic you already made yourself look like an idiot. At this point you are just acting like a child and claim the world is wrong around them.
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Tether lasts 6 seconds. both GG last 11 seconds. Arcstrider lasts 14 seconds if you do nothing....9 seconds if you deflect. Warp lasts 20 seconnds Stormcaller lasts 25 seconds. Dawnblade lasts 23 seconds. Warlocks and titans will always be the kings and queens of panic supers and have been since day 1 D1. Seeing as hunter didnt have a panic super till forsaken.
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If you do nothing: Moebius Quiver lasts 10 secs. Arc Staff lasts 16 secs. Spectral Blades lasts 23 secs. 16 and 23 secs are enough time to "go across the map". Bottom tree Stormtrance lasts 16 secs. Top tree lasts 21 secs, but only if grenade and melee are full. Also you're more agile with Arc Staff and Spectral Blades than any Warlock super. You can zap left and right and it's hard to keep track of when you're close. Warlock has dash and blink, but it's easier to follow and more predictable. Titans used to be. Now you're the #1 panic super abusers with Blade Barrage. But also your other supers are paniced more than ever in Crucible. Maybe the percentage of panic happy kids and teens has grown even larger in your class than it already was, who knows.
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Nope. Warlock and titan are still # 1 and 2 in panic supers. Mainly because titan has 5 panic supers and warlock has 4. Hunter has 1.. And they have had panic super 4 years longer. So hunter will always be the one who uses panic super the least.
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Past is irrelevant. Nowadays your class mates tend to panic every super more than Locks and Titans, no matter if good for panicing or not. You were already wrong on some super duration numbers that you apparently just guessed, but let's just agree to disagree.
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There is no disgree or agree here. Only facts. It is a facts warlocks and titans use panic supers more. And have more panic supers. I have not seen 1 blade barrage in normal crucible in the last 4 seasons except in mayhem. And i have seen at least 3 panic super titans and warlocks every single match. Not to mention that our only panic super has been nerfed so hard that it can even miss at point blank range if a target moves slightly. All because titans and warlocks were salty hunters finally had a panic super after being spammed by you guys for 4 years.
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Right, but all I see is an opinion. Fact is that you're a Hunter drowning in self pity. Who apparently thinks that quick kill supers like nova bomb or thundercrash are panic supers by definition. Those aren't panic supers by definition, those just can be used as panic supers (and yes this also includes Hunter supers like blade barrage). Throwing my nova bomb on your bunny hopping butt or a Titan thundercrashing your invisible face doesn't automatically made us [u]panic[/u] supering. We have more "panic supers"? Let's call them quick kill supers or something. Warlock: nova bomb. Titans: thundercrash. You: blade barrage and shadowshot. If you're telling me that e.g. nova warp or hammers of sol are a "panic super" too, then arc staff or spectral blades are too. Sure, certainly got nerfed because of salty Warlocks and Titans. Bungie nerf and buff based on data. So you haven't seen a single barrage in 4 seasons in normal Crucible except Mayhem. I tell you what: I'm going to believe you that... if you barely played Crucible in that time. I'm muting you, tired of bs.