You neglect that 365 items don't start dropping reliably until you are around that level, which can take quite some time getting to. But anyways, I never said anything about no lifing, or that it's because people have a life. Prior to the raids launch, I myself was a 350 something, but I was comfortably at 365 the next week and gave the raid a whirl. It took a good five hours to complete it then, but I now sit comfortably at 381 when raiding. You missed the point of my post, though. I'm not making an excuse to let people in at low levels because they don't have time to do the strikes and such, I'm more so saying it's not so punishing as everyone makes it to have lower levels in your team. With my low level buddy I had a fantastic time playing with him. Whether he was a low level to buying rise of iron recently or not choosing to play destiny much I couldn't really care. I got to meet a great teammate who can coordinate well and had a blast with him. Now don't take this as everyone else has been misreading for a "You can't have expectations!" Because that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying you can enjoy a raid and get it done quick even with a low level teammate. [spoiler]One of the more memorable moments, was when it was the level 350's first stun he wasn't in position and didn't get to aksis quick enough. We wiped, and showed him where to wait with empowerment. When it was his turn next to stun aksis, we all shouted "REDEMPTION!" And laughed through the next damage phase[/spoiler]

Well the one thing I agree with is about having a good time, I myself at 371 did the raid for the first time a week last Friday and managed to knock it out whilst consuming vast quantise of single malt. As a result of that raid, getting outbreak prime and iron banner, I am now a shade off 386 I think in truth, the reason you are receiving so much salt is because people know it can be done with a character of low light provided they have thumbs and are willing to listen, but it should be called for what it is and that's a carry. In most peoples experience, at least those of us that live on and around LFG, low light people on LFG generally tend to be low light because they either don't play that much and possibly lack experience and sadly in some instances because they are just lazy and have a sense of entitlement. I used to run with a crew who have since fallen out of love with the game (I assume so because I never see them on these days) but we used to run VoG hard mode and were that chill that an hour out of our raid time was spent floating about in the tower waiting for one of the younger members to get back from picking out furniture with his parents (Tacolicious I am looking at you kid) and I always end my LFG post with looking for chill group. But sometimes there are occasions that you just want get the raid down and quickly and that just can't be done with lower light characters or even where you basically have to Sherpa others through the raid.

I 'no life' every day after school, I get on around 630-7 and play til 10. 21 hours a week and I'm barely at 356 from 335. Somethings not checking out here pal. Some people just aren't as lucky with their loot drops