I have a story for you. Not a long one, a pretty short and simple one. As a 381 with outbreak prime, I've convinced myself that you NEED to be 365 to defeat Aksis. Earlier today, I started a raid group, consisting of 4 hunters, and two titans. One hunter was a 351. I told myself that we'll take him up to aksis, and due to his low light he'll have to leave then. Instead, he kinda grew on me and I decided to keep him until he got frustrated and left. That isn't what happened. Out of our makeshift raid, half of us were getting our first completion. We killed aksis in less than 5 wipes. Our damage was stellar, and our coordination was both social and professional. We beat aksis with a 356 in our team. As an edit; There's too many people misinterpreting my point. I'm not saying : "Fu[i]c[/i]k you people asking for 370 and up! You can't have expectations." I'm telling you a story, where we did the entire raid within 3 hours, with a run down team of high 360s with a 350 teammate. M point is; You can still have a fun and quick raid even if you have some low levels. As a final edit: It's been a ride. This has gotten much more popular than I'd thought, and theres so many people discussing. From support and congratulations to hate and criticism, we've had quite the number of ideas and points said. I understand that people have time constraints, and I guess 3 hours is suddenly a long completion time. (Final edit pt 2) Last time I completed the raid was in 5 hours and that was quick to us. The raid is a hardcore endgame that I set aside always a few hours to do. The point of my post, however, is that you can still be speedy and effective without the highest of levels and cooperation/coordination will prove to be the much more valuable trait.