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Editado por BurningWidow:
7/30/2024 12:04:03 AM
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[quote]it’s just a shame that Bungie locked most of their player base out from ever being able to enjoy a huge chunk of it.[/quote]
You move on to describe raids, dungeons, and the exotic class item mission. But those make up less than 10% of the game, even if you include GMs into that list. That is a small chunk.
For the new raid, it seems to be a steep learning curve compared to many other raids and requires people to be active participants by removing the add clear role. But once you learn the encounter, the raid it self becomes a lot more easy. We have super easy raids like RON and VOG, middle raids like Last wish and Kingsfall, and now a Hard raid.
As for most people not stepping inside to see the raid, that seems to be true for every raid not just this one. When it comes to people no longer playing raids once they get their items, that true for some and wrong for others. People that raid do so even if they get no loot out of them.
[quote]So as a solo player (which bares drilling into Bungie’s thick headed skulls IS HOW MOST PEOPLE PREFER OR ONLY HAVE TIME TO PLAY), there isn’t much to do.[/quote]
This is projection. While it's true that most people play solo, those people have no issue partnering up with other folks to get certain activities done. The exclusively solo player is very rare.
When it comes to solo content. The percentage is about the same as it's always been.
The first half of the last paragraph is just complete conspiracy levels of nonsense. Looters have been a huge loto systems since they were created. People have farmed for decades without getting certain rare drops in games like Diablo 2. Items so rare that maybe 10 out of a million players had.
[quote]The very few people with a RAID completion doesn’t lie.[/quote]
This does not say anything really. In both the high points and low points, very few people have completed raids since D1.
[quote]The very few people I see with Exotic Class Items doesn’t lie.[/quote]
This might have a lot more to do with you being a solo only player. About 75% of the active player base who have had the option to play the exotic mission have gotten the class item. The issue is with class item is that there are too many rolls, it only works when using prismatic, and certain older builds are still S tier and do not require the class item. It's simply not a good exotic (unless you get lucky with a good roll), completely useless on a titan too.
Although I disagree with your takes, I respect your opinion. Over all it sounds like you have been burn out by playing this game too much, I had a similar experience around Shadowkeep, if you are no longer having fun you can't force yourself to smile.
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Class item completion isn't 75% its half that, last figure I saw was 34% if its 75% of 'active players' ? Thats possible with the record 64% decline. The clan I'm in I think 2 out of 30 have it. Most have no interest including me. Looking at players I know the dual missions are by far the least played content after the raid.
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dude hes a complete f-ing moron. You can literally give him the exact math to show him how this works, and he still just says you're wrong and tries to f-ing add the 30% of players with the 40% who have the dlc....
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 7:55:20 PMThis is how the percentage of those who have beaten the campaign is counted [quote]"Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 441,795 have completed this triumph."[/quote] This is how the percentage of those who have beat the exotic mission is counted [quote]"Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 308,150 have completed this triumph."[/quote] In other words 308,150/441,795 people who can do the mission have done the mission. Looks awfully close to 3/4 that i estimated. You are the only person to claim to be good at math and then confuse the division sign (÷) for the addition sign (+). I've been dividing 30 by 40 this whole time and yet you keep coming back with the idiotic take that I'm adding 30 to 40. As for giving formulas and showing the work. I gave you all that. Yet you called me wrong and said that around 120,000 people cleared the exotic mission. However the website where it's being tracked shows 308,150 people have cleared the mission. Do you want to explain why your math was way off?
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 12:00:27 AMOut of 100% of the active player base around 40% completed the Final Shape campaign and have access to the exotic mission. Out of 100% of the active player base around 30% have completed the exotic mission. 30/40 is 3/4, or 75%. SO ROUGHTLY ABOUT 75% OF PEOPLE WHO [u]CAN[/u] PLAY THE MISSION HAVE COMPLETED THE MISSION. But you looked at players you know, so who cares about the actual stats?
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Editado por 堺市 Rinzler (PRIMARCH): 7/30/2024 12:22:08 AMHoly f-ing -blam!- you really dont understand math. If only 40% of ALL D2 players have the latest dlc, and even bothered to complete the final shape, and only 30% OF THOSE 40% of players have the exotic class item, thats 12% of the D2 population. Not 75% of people who can play... In this case, 40% of D2 players having the latest dlc,100% of all players still left. Out of ALL those players still left who have the dlc, only 30% of them have the class items...meaning 70% of players who still actively play and have the final shape, dont have those exotics. Get off the game and go read a book and go study. Because wow....what you said is next lv stupid.
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 12:42:29 AM[u]Out of 100%[/u] of the active player base around [u]40%[/u] completed the Final Shape campaign and have access to the exotic mission. [u]Out of 100%[/u] of the active player base around [u]30%[/u] have completed the exotic mission. It's not 30% of 40. It's 30% of 100. That's what 30% of the active player base means. 30% of 100. To divide 30/100 by 40/100, we can invert the second fraction (i.e., flip the numerator and denominator) and then multiply: (30/100) ÷ (40/100) = (30/100) × (100/40) = 3/4 So, 30/100 divided by 40/100 is equal to 3/4. 3/4 is the same as 75%. 75% of those who can play the mission, have beaten the mission. Now take your advice and [quote]Get off the game and go read a book and go study. Because wow....what you said is next lv stupid.[/quote] because [quote]Holy f-ing -blam!- you really dont understand math.[/quote]
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[quote][u]Out of 100%[/u] of the active player base around [u]40%[/u] completed the Final Shape campaign and have access to the exotic mission. [u]Out of 100%[/u] of the active player base around [u]30%[/u] have completed the exotic mission. It's not 30% of 40. It's 30% of 100. That's what 30% of the active player base means. 30% of 100. To divide 30/100 by 40/100, we can invert the second fraction (i.e., flip the numerator and denominator) and then multiply: (30/100) ÷ (40/100) = (30/100) × (100/40) = 3/4 So, 30/100 divided by 40/100 is equal to 3/4. 3/4 is the same as 75%. 75% of those who can play the mission, have beaten the mission. Now take your advice and [quote]Get off the game and go read a book and go study. Because wow....what you said is next lv stupid.[/quote] because [quote]Holy f-ing -blam!- you really dont understand math.[/quote][/quote]\ Yes you are a complete moron. 30% of players is 30%. Only 40% of players have and completed the dlc. You dont ADD those 40% of players, to the 30% who have the exotic. That 40% who completed the dlc, is 100% of active players. 30% of them have the exotic....its still just 30% of active players. You're such a fool... Not only can you not do basic math, you actually think switching accounts to down vote my responses and up vote yours is proving your point....its not. That doesnt negate basic math. Only 30% of all active players who have the dlc have the exotic. Stop trying to say its 75% of players.....because even adding 30% with 40% doesnt equal 75.... Fyi dummy, you dont DIVIDE to percentages like that because it produces a bigger number. To find the answer, you take all the players (40% of the D2 community) and times that by the 30% who have the exotic.
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 8:09:11 AM[quote]Yes you are a complete moron. 30% of players is 30%. Only 40% of players have and completed the dlc. You dont ADD those 40% of players, to the 30% who have the exotic.[/quote] 30% is not being added to 40%. The equation is not 30+40. The equation is (30/100) ÷ (40/100). That is a division sign. The addition sign look like this +. [quote]Stop trying to say its 75% of players[/quote] Reading comprehension issue. I'm saying out of the pool of people who have access to the exotic mission (the 40% who beat the campaign), 75% of those people have beaten the exotic mission. The total over all is 30%, yes. But i'm weeding out the the people who simply do not have access to the mission. [quote]That 40% who completed the dlc, is 100% of active players[/quote] No it is not. 40% of the active player base is 40% of the active player base. 100% includes free to play players, people who did not buy the DLC, and those who have the DLC but have not beaten it. [quote]Not only can you not do basic math, you actually think switching accounts to down vote my responses and up vote yours is proving your point....its not.[/quote] So not only is your math bad, but you are also other types of delusional. I'm down voting you simply because you are a massive jerk for no reason, and your math is bad. If you care about upvotes and approval from strangers online, make better points. Or be funny. [quote]Fyi dummy, you dont DIVIDE to percentages like that because it produces a bigger number. To find the answer, you take all the players (40% of the D2 community) and times that by the 30% who have the exotic.[/quote] Except the fact that all active players makes 100%, not 40%. 40% is around how many people beat the FS campaign. 30% is how many got the exotic item. Both the 40% and 30% are taken from the total of 100%. [u]This is how the percentage of those who have beaten the campaign is counted[/u] "Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 441,795 have completed this triumph." [u]This is how the percentage of those who have beat the exotic mission is counted [/u] "Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 308,150 have completed this triumph." If you want to split hairs we can get the real prestige, which would be ~69.75% (rounded to the nearest 100th). While not the simplified 75% i estimated, it's still far higher than the 30% that the unintelligent community, as you call them, keep citing to make it seem like most people who have access to the mission are avoiding playing this mission because of multiple reasons.
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Tbh im not shocked that you cant understand basic math. Given how incredibly unintelligent most of this community is now. Lets pretend there 1 million players who own D2. If 40% of them have the final shape, that would mean 400,000 (400k) of them have the dlc. If 30% of them have the exotic class items, would only be 120,000. 120,000, isnt 75% of 400k....its 30%. That 400K is only 40% of the total 1 million. If you cant understand this, then you need to realize you have bigger issues.
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 8:15:43 AM[u]This is how the percentage of those who have beaten the campaign is counted[/u] [quote]"Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 441,795 have completed this triumph."[/quote] [u]This is how the percentage of those who have beat the exotic mission is counted[/u] [quote]"Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 308,150 have completed this triumph."[/quote] Even the answer sheet clearly shows that far more than your estimated 120,000 have completed the exotic mission. Your math is simply wrong. You are trying to find 30% of 40 when that is not what is being discussed.
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 5:22:12 AMCan you not read? I even underlined the important bits and did the math problem for you. Do you not understand what TOTAL ACTIVE PLAYER BASE means? We're not talking about 30% of 40. We're talking about 30% of 100 and how much of 40% of 100 it represents. (30/100) ÷ (40/100), that is the math problem. Not (40/1)÷(30/100). Using your example of 1 million, tell me what is 30% of that. Now that that number and compare it to the 400k you came up with for the 40%. [quote]Tbh im not shocked that you cant understand basic math. Given how incredibly unintelligent most of this community is now.[/quote] And you are proof that it can get even dumber.
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Editado por 堺市 Rinzler (PRIMARCH): 7/30/2024 3:31:46 AMBtw, using an alt account to give moronic takes on the forums and go around down voting people you're too dumb to argue isnt a good look.... [spoiler]go back to school[/spoiler]
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 7:44:09 AMTake your own advice. Go to your closest school and ask them what percent of 40/100 is 30/100.
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[quote]Take your own advice. Go to your closet school and ask them what percent of 40/100 is 30/100.[/quote] Oh and btw, stop projecting. You didnt even know that to find the percentage of something, you multiply the total, with the percentage...not divide.
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 7:14:58 AM[quote]To find the percentage of a number, follow these steps: Divide the part (the smaller value) by the whole (the larger value): This gives you a decimal value. Multiply the decimal value by 100: This converts the decimal to a percentage. Example: Find 25% of 100 Divide 25 (part) by 100 (whole): 25 ÷ 100 = 0.25 (decimal) Multiply 0.25 by 100: 0.25 × 100 = 25% Formula: P = (part ÷ whole) × 100 Where P is the percentage.[/quote] [quote]Method: To divide fractions, multiply the first fraction by the reciprocal (inverse) of the second fraction. Steps: Keep the first fraction unchanged. Change the division operation to multiplication. Flip (or invert) the second fraction, making its numerator and denominator swap places. Example: Divide 1/2 by 3/4 Keep 1/2 unchanged. Change division to multiplication. Flip 3/4 to 4/3. Now, multiply 1/2 by 4/3: (1 × 4) / (2 × 3) = 4/6 = 2/3 Simplification: Reduce the resulting fraction to its simplest form, if possible. [/quote] (30/100) ÷ (40/100) = (30/100) × (100/40) = 3/4 So, 30/100 divided by 40/100 is equal to 3/4. 3/4 is the same as 3÷4. 3÷4 = 0.75 0.75 × 100 = 75 3/4 is the same as 75%. Again. Around 75% of those who can play the mission, have beaten the mission.
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Thats not how this works you damn idiot. Why tf are you ADDING the 30% of player who have the exotic, theres nothing to add that to.... You seem like you're on the spectrum or have serious cognitive issues at this point. If you want the answer, you dont divide the 40% with the 30% you damn idiot.
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 7:37:28 PM[quote]Thats not how this works you damn idiot. Why tf are you ADDING the 30% of player who have the exotic, theres nothing to add that to....[/quote]I gave you the formulas for finding a percentages and the formula for dividing fractions. At this point, your lack of mathematic knowledge is on you. I know you threw some asian letters next to your name, but that clearly does not mean you are good at math. Also, do you think this "÷" is an addition sign? It's the division sign. This one over here -> "+" is the addition sign. You need to go see an optometrist. [quote]You seem like you're on the spectrum or have serious cognitive issues at this point. If you want the answer, you dont divide the 40% with the 30% you damn idiot.[/quote] Seriously go get your eyes checked. It's was 30 being divided by 40, not the other way around. Or at least stop trying to sound smart. [u]This is how the percentage of those who have beaten the campaign is counted[/u] "Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 441,795 have completed this triumph." [u]This is how the percentage of those who have beat the exotic mission is counted[/u] "Voluspa collects data from 1,000,000 players. Of those players, 1,000,000 were successfully assessed for the purpose of providing this data. Of 1,000,000 assessed players, 308,150 have completed this triumph." In other words 308,150/441,795 people who can do the mission have done the mission. Looks awfully close to 3/4 that i estimated.
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Editado por 堺市 Rinzler (PRIMARCH): 7/30/2024 8:24:52 PMNo tf you didnt, you're math is completely wrong. A percentage is a fraction. If you want to know the percentage of a number, you MULTIPLY the number with that fraction. NOT DIVIDE. Im not even down voting you, its others....get a damn clue and go read a book dummy. Not to mention, you're still trying to ADD those who simply completed the campaign, to those who have the exotic. Thats not how that works. Thats still only 30% of players with the dlc owning the exotic. The other 44% of players who simply beat the campaign, without doing the exotic mission to get the class items....dont have the exotics. So you cant add them in by default moron. Stop trying to add those who have the exotic, with those who ONLY beat the campaign and nothing else. Thats makes no sense, and you're literally just proving to everyone else how clueless you are.
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Editado por BurningWidow: 7/30/2024 9:36:31 PM[quote]No tf you didnt, you're math is completely wrong. A percentage is a fraction. If you want to know the percentage of a number, you MULTIPLY the number with that fraction. NOT DIVIDE.[/quote] Scroll up two comments. The formula for finding percentages and the formula for dividing fractions is right there. To find the percentage you take the 'part' and divided by the 'whole' then multiply by 100. Since we are looking for precent of people who have completed the mission out of those who have access to said mission, the whole is 44% (441,795 or 44/100) of the active players and the part is 30% (308,150 or 30/100) of the active players. [quote]Thats still only 30% of players with the dlc owning the exotic.[/quote] It's 30% of the active players. Not just the ones who own the Final Shape DLC. I've quoted you the numbers from the website people are citing the 30% from 3 times already. [quote]The other 44% of players who simply beat the campaign, without doing the exotic mission to get the class items....dont have the exotics.[/quote] No. 44% of active players have beaten the campaign and 30% of active players have gotten the exotic item. Again, I've quoted you the numbers for this 3 times already. 308,150 out of 441,795 (308,150/441,795) people who can do the mission have done the mission. [quote] Stop trying to add those who have the exotic, with those who ONLY beat the campaign and nothing else. Thats makes no sense, and you're literally just proving to everyone else how clueless you are.[/quote] Nobody is doing additions. You are confusing the division sign for the addition sign.
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The figures given by most people look at all players including those who do not own the expansion or have yet to complete it. Given the mission is only available post TFS completion you need to filter out all innactive accounts and all acounts without Final Shape campaign completion which ends up with nearly 75% of players having it. A single clan is not good representation of the overall populus nor is using every possible player given it is not a free to play mission. You need to filter out people who cannot do it due to not having acces to it (lack of DLC completion/ownership)
