Most people don't think the last word is overpowered. These people do not know how to use the weapon properly, but once you do it is literally the most overpowered thing in this game. How do you learn to use it properly? Does it take time to learn? Nope! Just use aggressive ballistics and perfect balance. Now fire from the hip and ONLY from the hip. A shot to the body will do 68 damage. That means 3 shots to the body is a kill. No other handcannon in the game except for Thorn can kill in 3 shots to the body and do so as fast as TLW, because no other hand cannon in the game fires faster or more accurately from the hip than the last word. A shot to the head from the hip will do 111 damage. If you get two headshots, that's a two shot kill. Since you're never aiming in, your radar is always up, and because hand cannons are very accurate from the air you can jump around while still accurately killing people in 3 shots to the freaking body.
Go on destinytracker, look at the top players in true skill, then look at what gun they're using; usually last word or Thorn. I was hoping I wouldn't have to make this post, because A) the less people that know about this ridiculous gun the better for crucible. B) I doubt anyone from bungie will notice this post. Please fix your game by nerfing this gun because it's literally the easiest gun in the game and takes all skill out of a fight that is TLW vs TLW. There is no incentive to even go for headshots with this stupid gun. In fact that's the biggest problem, the unique passive says it only gets bonus precision damage from the hip, but it actually gets bonus damage to non-precision shots as well, which sounds like a bug to me.
As a final note, I have a very high k/d, I'm #12 in Skirmish on xbox one, and as a player who actually understands this game's pvp, The Last Word is the most overpowered thing in the game by FAR. Also, if you ever actually do get around to nerfing it, go ahead and nerf the Thorn and Pocket Infinity, because they're right up there on the list of weapons that will be abused. Lets get back to winning gun fights because you hit more headshots than the other guy.
edit: To everyone saying "why not nerf everything omg stop crying":
I know that when the gun gets nerfed another gun will be the best, obviously. Problem is that you don't go for headshots with this gun, you don't even aim in. Hipfire to the body is not a skillful way to win gunfights. I'd rather a gun that requires aim and headshots be the best, that way the better player will consistently win.
edit 2: Keep the discussion somewhat respectful please :p, and if you agree with me please upvote this so that hopefully Bungie will actually see this post. I'm going to sleep now.
edit 3 (last one lol): I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging when I mention my stats, I just want people to know that obviously as someone who is good at the game I know what I'm talking about. Also, I didn't suffer some horrible loss in crucible recently, this post is just a wake up call to Bungie, because they apparently have no idea TLW is broken right now and neither do most people playing the game.
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I dismantled that trash
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5 RespuestasStay at range or get close enough to shotgun or fusion rifle them. I've countered people using both TLW and thorn with the strangers rifle. Stay out of their range, or get close enough to one shot them.
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Can't remember the last time I saw TLW in a game. Often when I go toe to toe with one, it just depends on who gets the first shot off. It kills me from time to time, but not noticeably enough to call for a nerf. I do however think it's weird to have 8 bullets in the weapon as opposed to 6, if it's supposed to be like a western shooter.
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http://youtu.be/uq-v1TTUyhM
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14 RespuestasFantastic post. It definitely needs a nerf. Why? Because winning games depends on whether I use tlw to counter tlw. Take this game for instance... I was down by 1000 points and swap to tlw for the win. The guy winning uses the same tlw setup. http://youtu.be/nSP_sZiCIrQ [b]to all you ppl crying about him "crying"... You have no idea how potent of a weapon tlw is. If you would like to play me in rumble, I'll pull tlw, and [u]we'll see who has The Last Word[/u][/b]
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5 RespuestasI have the last word and it's not op. Mainly the range is worse than most shotguns and those one shot kill you. If you die from that gun a lot maybe the problem is you not the gun. If I died from a shotgun all the time maybe I stop going so close range. Hmm? Getting really sick of all these nerf posts. Stfu or get good.
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1 RespuestaEditado por That Zexi Guy: 3/16/2015 9:31:29 PMAnd, how do you propose they nerf it? You can't make a nerf post without exactly saying how it should be nerfed. Besides, Bungie has difficulty nerfing weapons to balance them. See what they did to Auto rifles? I thought a nerf was needed, but not THAT MUCH of a nerf. If they nerfed TLW, chances are it would become useless. That's not what we want. I think TLW is balanced. Like a shotgun, if you keep a distance then you can beat them. The problem is that most maps in PvP are small. If you see someone using TLW in Skyshock, they are going to get wrecked.
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Wanna know how to counter it ? Don't stand still dumb ass its very hard to control against moving targets
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The Last Word FTW
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7 RespuestasEditado por scruffydajanitor: 3/16/2015 8:15:58 PMPeople seriously need to stop with the nerf posts. If anything is ruining this game it's all the cry baby's asking for nerfs because they get killed by a gun too much. Ever thought that maybe it's you that is the problem because you refuse to adapt your play style to certain situations? God this community is a joke.
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7 RespuestasMain reason why I use TLW is to counter shotgunners and it such a satisfying gun to use. Funny thing is you make this nerf post but you have a last word equipped, I just don't get it.
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Yet another crucible whiner.
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Why do people do nothing but complain about guns? I get killed by these same weapons. Others as well. Its a game. Stop complaining or just go play Mario kart.
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2 Respuestasits called LAST WORD for a reason and thats simply because it literally has the last word!
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Don't you dare ask them to nerf my precious Pocket Infinity again, it's already been castrated once. It's easily countered by almost any gun nowadays.
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Stop your whinging.
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when will the complaining about OP weapons stop. It's a exotic.... It's suppose to better then legendary weapons. This game is filled with complaining ass gamers. Learn how to duck or slide or something but asking for a nerf is stupid.
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Chances are if you're waiting for something to be addressed and it hasn't.. it's probably not something they're going to address. Just because you feel that something needs a change doesn't mean Bungie does.
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HAWKMOON can literally 1 shot anyone if u get lucky enough !
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5 RespuestasIt doesn't need a nerf. It behaves exactly the way it's suppose to, and give the entire exotic list a nerf would make this game unplayable. Granted, you asked for what? Three guns? But it won't stop there, and we both know it. Nerf tlw, thorn and pocket infinity, then red death, plan c and thunder lord become more godly. Then you'll complain about them. So red death, plan c and thunderbird get nerfed, and no land beyond, invective, and truth become the meta for destiny. Then you'll complain about them. I'm pretty sure we can all assume where I'm going with this. Eventually, there'll be nothing left to nerf except the legendaries. And then Rares get their shine. And then they'll get nerfed to shit. Nerfing and buffing aren't the ways to go here. I mean, if you want a buff? Bring back the stats pre-dlc. Let the pulse rifles keep their 9.7% bonus (because, let's face it, they were still bad before 1.1.1). Give the shotguns back the range, and let heavy ammo drop from players again. Leveled the playing field. Now, you have a range of contestants. Your last word might lose to a Suros, which in turn loses to an nlb, which then loses to thorn and so on. But stop asking for a nerf or a buff.
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1 RespuestaSo let's nerf a gun for actually having a niche and a distinct feel/playstyle to it? Oh, and being an exotic, shouldn't it be a good weapon?
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2 RespuestasIts effective in PvP at closer ranges but falls off at range unless you are godly at hip firing from range. That bonus damage to headshots while aiming probably is a bug and i agree that would be a problem but this gun doesnt need a nerf. Alot of the Exotics need a buff in PvE for example Pocket Infinity. Yes its good in PvP but its total ass in PvE because the damage output is a little shaky. If we are talking pure DPS it wins alot in the Fusion rifle world, but its not very consistent at putting out that DPS. I run out of ammo with it very fast and since its damage decreases for every shot after the first shot, it FEELS like it doesnt put out as much damage. Especially when you have another Fusion Rifle that charges very fast.
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Um no...I've not had a chance to abuse it properly....because I'm working an all void loadout to get a thorn.....then I'll abuse that too........then I'll just abuse myself.......its a vicious cycle!
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Editado por mckechnie13: 3/16/2015 7:39:59 PMGet a life or kill yourself.
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Hip fire is the whole point of the gun. It isnt OP. If thorn's BS health drain isn't OP a gun that can kill just a fast isn't OP. I would rather die in 3 shots than have to get hit and watch my health drain to zero over a few seconds
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Stop nerfing every -blam!-in thing in the game. suros, vex, shotguns, auto rifles, blade dancer, just..... stop. did they nerf the awp in cs? no, because people got over it.