Most people don't think the last word is overpowered. These people do not know how to use the weapon properly, but once you do it is literally the most overpowered thing in this game. How do you learn to use it properly? Does it take time to learn? Nope! Just use aggressive ballistics and perfect balance. Now fire from the hip and ONLY from the hip. A shot to the body will do 68 damage. That means 3 shots to the body is a kill. No other handcannon in the game except for Thorn can kill in 3 shots to the body and do so as fast as TLW, because no other hand cannon in the game fires faster or more accurately from the hip than the last word. A shot to the head from the hip will do 111 damage. If you get two headshots, that's a two shot kill. Since you're never aiming in, your radar is always up, and because hand cannons are very accurate from the air you can jump around while still accurately killing people in 3 shots to the freaking body.
Go on destinytracker, look at the top players in true skill, then look at what gun they're using; usually last word or Thorn. I was hoping I wouldn't have to make this post, because A) the less people that know about this ridiculous gun the better for crucible. B) I doubt anyone from bungie will notice this post. Please fix your game by nerfing this gun because it's literally the easiest gun in the game and takes all skill out of a fight that is TLW vs TLW. There is no incentive to even go for headshots with this stupid gun. In fact that's the biggest problem, the unique passive says it only gets bonus precision damage from the hip, but it actually gets bonus damage to non-precision shots as well, which sounds like a bug to me.
As a final note, I have a very high k/d, I'm #12 in Skirmish on xbox one, and as a player who actually understands this game's pvp, The Last Word is the most overpowered thing in the game by FAR. Also, if you ever actually do get around to nerfing it, go ahead and nerf the Thorn and Pocket Infinity, because they're right up there on the list of weapons that will be abused. Lets get back to winning gun fights because you hit more headshots than the other guy.
edit: To everyone saying "why not nerf everything omg stop crying":
I know that when the gun gets nerfed another gun will be the best, obviously. Problem is that you don't go for headshots with this gun, you don't even aim in. Hipfire to the body is not a skillful way to win gunfights. I'd rather a gun that requires aim and headshots be the best, that way the better player will consistently win.
edit 2: Keep the discussion somewhat respectful please :p, and if you agree with me please upvote this so that hopefully Bungie will actually see this post. I'm going to sleep now.
edit 3 (last one lol): I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging when I mention my stats, I just want people to know that obviously as someone who is good at the game I know what I'm talking about. Also, I didn't suffer some horrible loss in crucible recently, this post is just a wake up call to Bungie, because they apparently have no idea TLW is broken right now and neither do most people playing the game.
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Unfortunately people are going to downvote you like crazy. I agree dude. This gun, like thorn, can kill you faster than heavy ammo...
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It's always been op but it's a developer favorite so it's going to be op like Gjallarhorn and thorn, sad when the team that makes games is now biased towards weapons because it's their baby
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4 RespuestasShut up. Sick of crucible whiners dictating weapon nerfs.
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3 RespuestasIve made this post many times. It's absurd! Most people came from Halo and CoD, where balance changes didnt happen. The ones that come from LoL... We can easily predict changes.
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3 RespuestasAs a pvp player myself. Tons of time in crucible messing around with many guns as well... OP isn't talking out of his grass if you're remotely smart enough to pick up on the games mechanics & a "feel" for guns -that of which many can't from the looks of it on these forums Tlw would be fine if its effective range was much lower imo and the thorn...well that guns is easy mode with no disadvantages and easy to see its a broken gun even in a gunclass thats already above the rest of the gun classes. -Suros was nvr a powerful gun only easy to use, but it got screwed to hell -thorn is not only easy to use but powerful as heck, on top of that u get a burning perk that gives u a massive advantage. Why are ppl not smart enough to see the hypocrisy?
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Lol duh people need to realize it is supposed to be like a midwest quick draw outlaw shootin tootin machine of madness lol
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2 Respuestas[spoiler]have you ever[/spoiler] [spoiler]thought that some[/spoiler] [spoiler]weapons are ][/spoiler] [spoiler]supposed to be [/spoiler] [spoiler]better than others?[/spoiler]
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That's the thrill of the last word, but it's certainly not king! Hawk moon can murder it at ranges and two head shots from a thorn and your screwed. I'd also like to point out thorn and TLW is tied for best in ROF(only difference is TLW has the Fan fire perk which means you won't have to keep pulling the trigger and if you press it to far "jAm" your weapon) but still a very powerful hand cannon ! Plus only 8 rounds ! Very minuscule for a hand cannon ! Making it only a 1v1 weapon (you'll miss some I guarantee ) and that reload.....
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You lost me at "only fire from the hip"
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1 RespuestaEditado por TeddyBundy: 3/16/2015 9:49:34 PMWTF is wrong with your stats? mouse&keyboard? Lagswitch? Damnit...if this is legit, then I'm really impressed. Is TLW also your GoTo weapon?
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TLW vs Me and my Hawkmoon, lol goodbye.
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2 RespuestasLook, to be fair, either use it or shut up, the last word is great but there are so many other op guns e.g Thorn, red death, strangers rifle to list a few, stop complaining and get good
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1 RespuestaOp: I get killed by it all the time and I want other people to never use it
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2 RespuestasEditado por randomhero204: 3/17/2015 3:49:38 AMLol if your firing from the hip at me while I'm ads with mine.. You're gonna get wrecked.. All day every day Source: my over 9k kills with tlw trumps ops 6k (he's a filthy casual)
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Hawkmoon can kill in 2 shots and sometimes 1 shot kill headshot. Hawkmoon is GOD of all hand cannons then there's his children Thorn and The Last Word.
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1 RespuestaI suck with mine in PvP, lol
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I think that people aren't talking about it now because it was a huge debate when Xûr sold it a long time ago.
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When all of your tears are collected
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Too long
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3 Respuestaswhen will the complaining about OP weapons stop. It's a exotic.... It's suppose to better then legendary weapons. This game is filled with complaining ass gamers. Learn how to duck or slide or something but asking for a nerf is stupid.
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Please stop!
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I agree. That is all.
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I'm just waiting for Xur to sell the upgrade.
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agreed. ive been saying this since week 2, when i first got mine
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2 RespuestasWhy does everyone constantly want weapons nerfed? As an owner of The Last Word I will agree that it is very good but it didn't turn me into some kind of PVP god because I have it. Like any other weapon it has it's good and bad qualities. The best quality IMO is that it is the best defense for the shotgun charging type players who just run around recklessly trying to shotty people. It is my go to in matches when the other team is using that tactic. For games when I am getting into longer range battles I prefer Thorn or Red Death