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Editado por Checker-3: 1/16/2015 8:55:23 PM
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*VOG Mystery* Originally posted and updated through October-December...

[b]Before you read any further guardians, remember this I am not able to search and test all these theories out by myself. Please for the community test some of what you can out and see if anything comes from it. -Thank you[/b] *Yes this is lengthy read. Yes it consists of some new information. Yes this is a must read for anyone trying to unlock any more possible VOG secrets. Lastly... *No I don't have any photos/videos because anybody can see this and my camera is faulty. *Alrighty ladies and gentlemen I'm going to try and update you with some new information found. Also my friends don't really enjoy exploring so if you want to help and are 30. "No 29's this will be difficult." Please add me or send message on (Xbox 360 xCh3ckerx) *The only things I can say for now is when you start the VOG on Hardmode go hard right and into Campus 9. Keep heading in that direction until where you fought the GateLord. As you'll immediately find out... ALL ENEMIES IN THIS AREA ARE NOW LEVEL 30! Fight your way through the hordes and you'll come to the vex plate where you activated the GateLord in the mission to get its head for the queen. Many players have speculated that the Gates outside of the VOG "There is two of them" and 1 at the jumping puzzles. "So in theory they are locked and you need a key to open them." The 3 main sync plates unlock the Vault itself, the two in Aetheons lair open the past and future timestreams. Which leads me here at this sync plate. Why would only on Hardmode on the VOG these enemies change to level 30? This area that leads you to the only known other sync plate. Also these guys are pretty tough in this area. Its tough to go alone even if you're a 30. Now if you follow this area up to where the GateLord use to be you'll see a laser above you that is similar to the one the spire fires off to open the vault. It bounces around a bit into multiple reflectors and ends up going to the GateLords ring..."yet I believe the laser splits into 3 but does not match up to the 3 lights on the ring." "*I will confirm or deny that part later." Anyways while you are at the sync plate look across to where the lasers fire from. There is only 3 red lights in this whole area and they are right next to where the laser enters this area. They seem to be set up as if check points. *This is where theory is to come in. What if turning the lights in the VOG to blue actually has an effect? Maybe by changing them in the Vault it will change the lights in the GateLord area thus activating the sync plate which could open something?! Its not really that quite of a stretch when you think about it. The main thing that bugged me and my fireteam is why are these enemies such a high level? What purpose would they have since everyone goes straight into the VOG as soon as a spire forms. I know there are many other forum posts doing trial/error runs and such. If you could help spread the word it might just be the missing piece of the puzzle they need. Lets just work together and weed out all the rumors and gossip and use what we know and test to see it have any effect on this new area such as not letting sync plates be taken? Don't let the Templar teleport? Don't let a gorgon spot your fireteam? Don't get marked by oracles? ...and other prevailing theories. If any and all other Raid teams could help please check this out, it seems to be set up like this for a reason. In my opinion I believe either only 3 guardians go into the VOG and the other 3 go to this sync plate. Or all but one go in and that lone wolf goes through this area by him/herself fighting these hard enemies to get to the plate. *Lastly I do think many people over think the raid, thinking there's so many more secrets than could fit in such a narrow space. The only reason I believe there to be more is...Since the beginning Bungie has always been crazy about 7 "possibly 7 chests." They are very sneaky with what they do, and also DeeJ has yet to speak on all these VOG theories posted almost daily. "He might have posted, yet I read many of these theories and have yet to see a reply from him on these posts." He takes the time to post on Longfaces posts and others yet doesn't dare involve himself with anything dealing with the Raid. Also the fact that we find new things out in the game almost daily. "Random bit of information...Did you know there is a Walker public event on the Moon, Venus and Earth? Many people do not know this." That's why I still have hope that this game has more to offer. Thank you for reading I hope others can check this new find out and can comment below with any proven evidence or new leads that they find. *Remember you and your friends might know something and don't seem to question if everyone else knows it too. Please share any and all information that may seem like every day things that you may know. Thank you. *Oh and a side note when you're in the GateLord area be sure to keep an eye on the sky! You'll see the normal reddish colored dragon creatures flying around, but also a few huge dark looking dragons?! I've never seen these massive dark ones until I explored this area while playing VOG on Hardmode. [b]*Edit1: Keep this trending guardians, and lets see if we can actually get some results from one of these raid theories! Remember any and everyone is able to test this out if you're capable of doing the VOG on Hardmode. *Edit2 : Alrighty guys/gals, I'm catching up on everything you've posted. Ill try to reply to what I can. Keep testing this and other theories out and PM me your findings. *Edit3 : After reading some of your comments it has come to my attention that the level 30 guys may just be that level due to the Instance Zone. However I still recommend checking that area out due to it being the only area with another sync plate in the game. Which we need for any of these prevailing theories to possibly work of opening the interior portals. As I've stated before lets check this out as a community for the current Raid rotation and if nothing comes from it, lets shelve it. For now all we can do is trial and error guardians. Thank you all for your feedback it is much appreciated. [i]"Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light."[/i] - Dylan Thomas *Edit4: I have yet to get a fireteam completely dedicated to this theory. I need 5 players of level 30 if possible... "due to damage increase and resistance advantages" Many players choose to only go after the rewards they know and not investigate the possibility of the ones we don't. If you would like to help me out message me on Xbox360-(xCh3ckerx). *Edit5: Tested theory of no sync plates and no players dying to see if anything happens at the GateLord sync plate during the beginning of the raid on Hardmode. No effect on the plate or the Endless Steps area in general. However the lights in the secret tunnel below the first chest did in fact turn blue. We searched inside the secret tunnel for any chests and none was found. Ill keep you all updated with any new information. -Thank you[/b] [b]*Edit6: Alrighty guardians after much exploring with these lights. I am split on wether we did some sort of challenge unknowingly or they just change color. *Edit7: If there is any guardians that can effectively cheese Aetheon, I need them for the Xbox360 to test out ny final theory before I close down this thread. "As a hunter I cannot..." (xCh3ckerx)[/b] [b] *Edit8: Just curious has anyone come across anything new they might seem to think is a lead of some kind?[/b]
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  • I think you are giving Bungie's hollows shell too much credit.

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    • Editado por Benny 403: 11/15/2014 7:57:29 AM
      This happens on any mission when you select a certain level. All enemies in areas where your fire team is seperated from the open world will be the level of the mission. Try the earth strike on lvl 24 and then back track to the room where you fight raksor archon priest. All enemies will be level 24.

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    • I'm a 360 player and am Lvl 30. Also I like searching VoG. Add me if you want help searching.

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    • Have you tried going into the base of the vex structure in the citadel? Very fleshed out area for no missions or strikes there.

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      • 1 guy waits outside at the gatelord entrance whilst the other 5 team members go into the vault of glass . the 5 defeat Atheon and then activate the 2 plates in the vault whilst the guy outside activates the gatelord plate . as kabre said ''"No one can open the vault alone. I opened the vault. There was no-one with me but I was not alone." was he at the gatelord plate ?

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        • Editado por BINX: 11/15/2014 12:00:55 AM
          Down to help out. 360 gt: b i n x 086 i've tried some stuff pertaining to the second jump puzzle. It's clearly where the 6th chest should be, and if not, I also found a small alcove that could possibly hold a chest. i'm beginning to think it's a timed chest. "complete the raid up until the jumping puzzle in so-and-so minutes, timer starts the moment you open the door" i'm game to try anything. edit: also forgot, has anybody tried to beat Atheon [i]without[/i] Time's Vengeance buff, and keeping track of the amount of teleports? i heard it was possible to go through the fight without killing a single oracle...

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          • During the hard VOG I found that in the Juncture(the hidden area in Venus), the enemies also being lv 30, and there is a strange barrier in there protect something, just like templer's, so I just thought if we could bring relic out, and can break the barrier.

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            • Join Our Clan: KamiKazeKlan We are an Xbox One Clan. We play casually and like to have fun. We do raids and weeklies every week. Go to the group, click on my profile and then Click on "KamiKazeKlan" then click join group. Once I accept you into the group go to bungie.net log on to Microsoft account. Go back to the group and click "set as clan" on bungie.net

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            • [quote][b][i][u]*Edit5: Tested theory of no sync plates and no players dying to see if anything happens at the GateLord sync plate during the beginning of the raid on Hardmode. No effect on the plate or the Endless Steps area in general. However the lights in the secret tunnel below the first chest did in fact turn blue. We searched inside the secret tunnel for any chests and none was found. Ill keep you all updated with any new information. -Thank you[/u][/i][/b][/quote]

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            • Editado por jsting: 11/14/2014 3:43:18 AM
              Here are my two cents regarding the question if there are more "bonus challenge chests" to be discovered. The answer is a definite yes. My reasoning is based upon Luke Smith's interview and basic game design and philosophy that I posted here: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/78493622/0/0

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              • WE KNOW that all instanced areas are leveled accordingly. A lot of you are getting caught up on that one line of the OP. What should be focused on is the connection between the Gate Lord and the VoG. Has anyone attempted to activate the Gate Lord sync plate? Has anyone attempted to activate the 5 VoG sync plates ALONG WITH the Gate Lord sync plate? Six sync plates? Six raid members...Nobody can open the Vault alone, Kabr was not alone, but nobody was with him. Possibly because he was at the gate lord plate opening the gate while the others were holding the others.

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                • Credit to ya mate... I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread... I'm proper intrigued.... Keep Up the Good work Brother... You'll go down in Destiny Folk law if you solve it, just like the First team to conquer the raid

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                  • Gamers like this need to be thanked spending their time searching out theories. If their wrong so what if their right every person bitching about these threads will be right at the vog trying to get the benefits of these peoples work. So thanks for testing all these out cause no one knows whats possible. Keep up the great work thank you.

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                    • Testing some theories out now. Will post results.

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                      • I was thinking why in the Gorgons maze when you die it has a time of how long you lived. Which is strange. I would think it wants you to finish it in a certain time maybe if you get through it in less then a 45 secs it spawns a chest.

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                      • Editado por Cardinal Erebus: 11/13/2014 9:47:46 PM
                        [u]You have a vision, a vision to see the impossible and hear the impossible. Time is running out where time diverges. Tick tock tick tock Do you hear it? Its soothing and has a ambient feeling, its like his light... but of a different source Tick... tock [/u] -TMOS

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                        • One thing I've always noticed while doing the gatelord mission is that the gate just to the right of the hydra and up the stairs doesn't seem to spawn enemies and it also has a strangely designed wall next to it. My first idea that comes to mind is that the gatelord sync plate might interact with this portal or the wall and offer a new entrance to the vault. Just an idea, try it out.

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                          • I just thought I'd point out that on normal mode the enemies in that area change to level 26

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                          • So we all know/should know the chest for not letting Templar teleport is timed.....so I'm thinking you have to go through the maze and get to the cave to the left of the jumping puzzle under a certain time... And if Kabr killed Medusa then we have to 'flee' from her sisters as fast as possible, it makes a bit of sense when you spawn (after a wipe) you run up to that first one follow behind it perfectly and you have a straight shot sprinting, not stopping from start till you reach the jump puzzle.. If anyone wants to try anything out I'm on PS4- steevharvey Message me your psn on here And if anyone has gorgon checkpoint please lmk

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                          • I don't even get how do we defeat Atheon, is it thanks to the relic? and i am not talking about the damage bonus, i am talking about the past and future Atheons that could just come in the VoG trough the portals beating the shit out of you, why can't that happen? is it thanks to the relic power? and if it is, why others can? why are there minatours in the portals? if there is a minatour, there can be an Atheon too right?

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                            • Seriously post proof, the raid has been out for more than enough time to figure it out. Bungie/deej are just telling you the mystery has yet to be unfolded so you keep grinding on the raid. Prove me wrong and post proof of the "7th chest" cause all I see is speculation.

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                              • Editado por Εφιάλτης: 11/14/2014 4:39:59 PM
                                To the people that want to be rude and discredit these ideas of a 6th and 7th chest why are you here? You have NO proof there isn't a 6th or 7th chest NOR do you have any theory as to why there isn't. We don't have solid proof either BUT have multiple theories supported by a general idea of the game maker itself. If you want to bully people cool.. just know that is all you are and in the real world your a little puss. xD Bungie has given no reason or theory that the chest aren't real. So just because some of you "try" all theories posted and nothing just means there is probably more to it.

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                                • Shortly after start my fireteam lost a member because he just leveled up to 30 and did not feel like the raid is worth his time now. Another player left and eventually it was only me. No results were found from this run since we never tested anything. If you would like to help out I'm on X360-(xCh3ckerx). Thank you for your comments and looking into this theory.

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                                • Can people stop paying attention to this shit. Seriously. Sick of all these "7th chest!!111!!!" threads. Until you actually FIND another chest (how about we find the 6th one before looking for a 7th), then just stop. How about the person who said they had found it and was going to post video proof, then disappeared. Trolls, the lot of you.

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