The many many guardians that have died to my Thorn and Invective will have to disagree.
Also, Red Death is one of the strongest weapons in the entire game.
Do you actually have these weapons?
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You're describing a skill gap. You're not really talking about the comparative virtues of each weapon. Example if I personally kill lots of people with bad juju because I'm a skilled player with a pulse rifle or have learned how to obey the requirements of the gun very well then my I idea is that the gun is good. That's just relative skill level, and results based error.
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All hand cannon, pulse rifles, etc. Work generally the same right? Exotics are very unique, the sound, the feel, the perks are what make them exotic. I'm not describing a skill gap. If people don't want to learn the strenghts of a weapon and instead want the weapon to carry them then that is just laziness not lack of skill. I don't want any guns to be unbalanced in either PvE or PvP just because thery were a liitle more difficult to acquire (they are actually easier to acquire than most legendarys but whatever).
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Maybe, but what I'm responding to is the statement about many dead players killed with those weapons. Secodndly, maybe you're right, but what people are asking for is for the exotics to be on par with the other exotics.
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You're describing a skill gap. You're not really talking about the comparative virtues of each weapon. Example if I personally kill lots of people with bad juju because I'm a skilled player with a pulse rifle or have learned how to obey the requirements of the gun very well then my I idea is that the gun is good. That's just relative skill level, and results based error.
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Ya red death is hella dope love mine I didn't at first tho until I went into pvp
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Editado por TenYearPlan: 11/10/2014 1:16:03 PMInvetive's reload speed and the ammo capacity is SHIT. Compare this weaon to The Comedian mate. Comedian is legendary and beats this weapon.
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If you need to reload your shotgun to not be killed you are doing it wrong.
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The Comedian
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yeah but invective is faster ROF, Sexier look, and regenerates ammunition on its own
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It may not have great ammo capacity, but it can wreck bladedancers and sunsingers. So it has its strengths. And remember, although they are really strong IMO, bungie always said exotics are supposed to 'feel' OP, without actually being OP.
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I have them. I don't say you can't kill with these weapons. I say thet they are underpowered. I would beat you with my "The Devil You Know" or Lord High Fixer.
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Forced to pvp . Only void fusion " rare " it kills fine , exotics should be better in some way . Love my suros wish pocket infinity had 5 rounds or quicker charge . Don't ruin perfection equalize for pvp . Don't change your great weapons make more . Humans cheat computers follow program . I want a weapon to destroy everything in its way . Pvp you just equalize damage
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I have lord high fixer. Its no way as good as thorn.
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Lol:D Funny.
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What are you laughing at you little twand? In a game with so many unique weapons naturally their are going to be some "more powerful" than others. This could just as easily be a thread about nerfing guns, like the hawkmoon, to be on par with the others! And I am not saying that they are not on par BTW!
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Thorn is definitely worse than TDYK and LHF. The DoT helps in PvP but PvE it is worthless in comparison
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I Should have said in PvP. I get higher more stable RoF out of thorn than LHF.
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I would agree with you on the PvP side of things. Does anyone know what the legendary hand cannon (apologies I have forgotten it's name at present) from the hard raid is like in PvP?
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Its called FateBringer it has arch damage too. I would love it myself.
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Fatebringer.. its not bad in pvp, very similar to the delil you know, i like it but i actual still use my red death over anything... (have every gun in the game minus praedyths timepiece and praetorian foil)