You mean make a wish to the Riven twice Riven? Or one of the 2 other Amhakara under the Queen's control... Osiris said I'm paraphrasing, "[Imagine you found who you were looking for, but they did not meet your expectations, and then so you kill them. Something like that would forever change somebody]". He wasn't talking about Maya... he was talking about this, He wasn't talking about... after drinking the tea, he spilled it, "I was... I AM selfish" (That is a direct quote). 😇👍💠 When the Nine talked about Osiris's rebirth... as a "phoenix"... we assumed that was righteous... No. Mithrax is cursed and might die, but he won't transform into Nezerac.

The Sundial was made with an Ahamkara bone. Keep up. You spend too much time with your theories you know are false.

But who did he actually make the wish to? And what was the cost?

Who? It was a bone, could have belonged to the scores of unnamed Ahamkara. The cost? He brought back a simulation, not the real thing. So the guy he wanted to bring back is still dead. Not complicated dude lol

Could have? 😇

Well you got nothing to show it’s from Riven and bones from unnamed Ahamkara being used is common. So what evidence do you have to speculate it’s from Riven?

Wishing on Amhakara bones isn't common, and you don't know what one he wished to either.

On unnamed ones it is. Eris and Lavinia ring any bells? How about the ones in our gear, they got a name? I’m not the one trying to say who it is based on nothing, that’s you. 🤣

Except I predicted [spoiler]Skolas's return...[/spoiler] And that Eramis would [spoiler]be let go/"escape"... to aid us.[/spoiler] And Mithrax is still dying as the result of carrying the reliquary, given to him by his mother, the finger of Nezerac. And once upon a time whispers in the dark taught him a recipe, using relics (desiccated body parts of Nezerac) we acquired... and he made a tea with it. That tea was fed to an already recovering Osiris by a sympathetic Saint-14 from a time not our own... not in malice, for love... but also the debt paid for a wish. See it... ? His murder of the Saint from our timeline, was NOT sympathetic to the Elikisni... he would have NEVER given Osiris that tea or trusted Mithrax. So, then we found one who would... now Osiris got it wrong, the coordinates... And that was the "right" Saint for the job. Courtesy Brother Vance... the awoken mystic, loyal to the Queen. Who, canonically, wrote the song, "Hope for the Future"... that's about Osiris. And then Osiris was corrupted by Savathun... btw, how'd that happen again? Anywho, in her expulsion... Osiris fell into a coma, where he had no say on how bitter Brother Vance... or anyone made his tea. Do YOU SEE 👀? "The coincidences that led us here". And that wish Osiris made so long ago, in desperation for his mariticide... Oh, the cost MUST be paid. How tragically poetic, don't you think? "Looping" back around to my [b]chosen[/b] title, "Saint deserved another chance". We can try to blame the corruption of Mithrax, or the darkness... or Savathun, or Mithrax's mother... Queen Mara... Brother Vance... But the truth is... Osiris doomed himself. He chose his path. I'd argue that's different than Mithrax, he had little choice... stabbed in the side, traveler's pendant ripped off his neck... replaced with the finger of Nezerac. Which he lost, after meeting the 1st Eido... Sjur Eido... and found his adopted daughter. Mithrax is not Eido's real father... let's see if I'm right about who it actually is. [spoiler]Skolas[/spoiler] Who had us kill him? And why were the Scorn created? To exterminate them... Missed one.... 2. Eido is going to lose 2 fathers. And she IS the Kell of Kells. You see Mara thinks she has gamed the system with the Anthem and her "bomb logic"... Nope. Her mariticide has consequences too. The irony... the mirrored foil of circumstances. In her manipulations she doomed herself... You see, the loophole Mara Sov thought she figured out was, you don't make wishes... you give them. You have others make your wishes for you, by manipulating them... that's number 1. Number 2 is you get the power to take, and you use it to literally control the genies by proxy. But there's no loophole. That's why my unified theory of the narrative in this game is called, "Tragedy of the Sovs".

So your only evidence is your idea being reliant on it. So no evidence, just a baseless assertion. If he wished to bring back his dead Saint and he got a copy, that’s the price. You also claim Savathun made the cosmos and it’s all a simulation. Your idea is a joke lol

In game... plently of evidence, in the lore too. All the events I outlined. The confirmation comes later. I had NO 'evidence', lol... [spoiler]yet Skolas is back.[/spoiler] I had NO 'confirmation' that [spoiler]Eramis would "escape" to aid us either.[/spoiler] Just theories that came true. 😇👍💠

Skolas never dies and why would Eramis be kept in a cell if not to do something later? The typical outcomes of being in a cell. You either escape or get taken out. Common sense isn’t insight. But since you think it is, explains why you’re so crap at spinfoil. You mean you rearranged quotes to make it look like it adds up and ignored the wish price that was already paid? No evidence at all. Cause to you “evidence” is reading about a campfire in the Distrubtary and then seeing on in a trailer and saying it has to be the same place. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nope, when I get things right... after you dismiss my earlier predictions, is that it is 'obvious'. Not obvious to you. Oryx never dies, Crota never dies... no taken dies ever. Lol. We never die. What a dumb point to make. Skolas IS [spoiler]Eido's father, how about that? [/spoiler] Everything that happened last Episode, I predicted it... Everything that has happened in Revenant... beat by beat. Just like it should be "obvious" now that Mara let Savathun escape. That's the callback to the moment to end ACT 2... You know what the most interesting thing Crow said, "We can all pretend Ikora doesn't know". What does Ikora know? Maybe that's referencing more beyond that event, with Saint-14... About Mara.... That's Ikora's quote that is the title of this topic.

Last episode you claimed Maya was setting up a collective to give over to Chioma And it didn’t happen lol In fact she killed Chioma. Which you then claimed to not have been the real one. You idea fizzled so you misdirect with making a new one. Keep lying to yourself cause you ain’t fooling no one else. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yet... the conductor and Chioma we were looking for, still lives.

[quote]Yet... the conductor and Chioma we were looking for, still lives.[/quote] Oh Chioma was killed, you’re the only one saying she’s still alive.

It's in-game... the epilogue. And Osiris met us at the entrance that last encore, yet didn't join us in our confrontation of the Conductor. He also had that profound dialog... did that happen before or AFTER we found the last murdered Chioma copy? Before... I am continually impressed by the narrative team, I think Allison is carrying the torch well. Are you playing right now? The major assignments' VO make up for awkwardness between Saint and Osiris during Echoes. Eramis is wrong, btw. [spoiler]Mithrax isn't the future of the Elikisni, Eido is.[/spoiler] Mithrax is already... [spoiler]lost.[/spoiler] We're seeing Mithrax now as he was as the "Weapon of Violence".

In-game they said it was the real her. Keep failing

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-3tVcWEI44]Battleground: Core | Collect Rewards: "She Escaped With the Echo. We've Failed" | Echoes[/url] 😇👍💠 If Maya killed the "true" Chioma how does this make sense? credit: Destiny Lore Vault This VO came after the conclusion.