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5/14/2024 2:04:36 AM
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Given the fact that not everyone is running around one shotting with knives I’d say no I really really don’t.
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Not everyone is using everything in the sandbox, a large majority of players in fact.
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So the majority in comp in trials ISN’T void titan because it’s the most effective and easy to use? Really? The class with the highest win rate ISN’T solar warlock? I’ve got tons of data from a certain website that just straight up say otherwise. You’re free to be wrong, just quit acting like I am.
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Besides. A "majority" is not the same as "everyone", those two words implicitly contradict each other.
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Is this from your SBMM? Or mine? Either way, that's deflecting from [i]throwing knives.[/i]
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I’m certain that data comes from the entire player base, good jab though. Really effective and took down a point that I didn’t present (personal experience). I’m so so sorry that you got a perfect frozen yogurt style turd dropped on your forehead but knives aren’t an issue. Please cope somewhere else and to someone who isn’t looking at a big chart telling me what everyone is using.
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Wait til you find out that players in a higher bracket can use just about anything to succeed regardless of what the majority of players are using.
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That’s insane, that totally didn’t cross my mind. I totally didn’t say in a comment with another user “Something that is only good in the hands of a good player is by definition not overpowered” I totally didn’t say that VERBATIM.
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You didn't, but you DID insinuate that usage rate directly correlates to the entire population without taking skill brackets into consideration. While 32-ish% of players are playing as a Void Titan, that doesn't mean 32-ish% of Ascendant players are running Void Titan. You're more often to see Hunters than anything else.
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You can look at win rates, void titan and solar warlock have been consistently at the top all year. Strand hunter has a higher win rate than solar hunter, so again. If something is so so so overpowered to the point that it’s braindead easy to use, THEN WHY IS NOBODY USING IT? Even when people run solar hunter they aren’t using weighted throwing knife 80% of the time cause it’s much better to have a melee that you have a much higher chance of hitting and not just completely whiffing. Your belief is based on a fallacy that every solar hunter is running the same thing (they aren’t)
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Because different players prefer different playstyles. For most players, the Hunter playstyle doesn't appeal to them (and by most, I mean Titan mains and Warlock mains combined, which irrefutably outnumber Hunter mains, as any two vs. one would).
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Editado por Pazsy: 5/14/2024 2:35:54 AMBut here’s the kicker, when people recognize something is really strong people switch to it to have an easier time. People do this all the time. Remember the arc titan meta? Remember shatterdive? Remember void hunter + lord of wolves? Nobody is switching to Hunter for throwing knife, be for real man. It just isn’t an issue. Annoying when someone is really really good? Sure but the thing is when someone just flat out poops on me with skill at least I can admit that it took a lot of skill to do so consistently. Admit that you’re wrong before you start embarrassing yourself even more.
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Here's the actual kicker: While Weighted Throwing Knife is not as obscenely overpowered as some of your examples, it's categorically the same kind of oppressive as Snipers were/are, the main difference is that Snipers are much more reliable at range. In spite of how strong Snipers are, they're still magnitudes more difficult to use when compared to anything else including the more notable overpowered tools, high-effort/risk, high reward. Weighted Throwing Knives are much of the same; demanding very precise aim to earn a kill in one hit. The issue with Snipers is that players on the receiving end rarely if ever feel they could have done anything to prevent it. At higher skill brackets, Solar Hunter is one of the more common subclasses, regularly compounded with Weighted Throwing Knife, mainly due to the fact that players within this skill bracket have a higher degree of accuracy.
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Editado por Pazsy: 5/14/2024 4:19:28 AMThe difference is that weighted throwing knife has a wind up and projectile drop. It takes more skill to get good with throwing knives than it does snipers because you can have infinite distance and only need worry about aim, not about travel time, not about projectile drop, not about positioning. If this were D1 I’d agree SLIGHTLY but it’s not. So again, if something requires a ton of skill to use, why nerf it to a point where it’s just flat out awful? If weighted throwing knife didn’t one shot it would be useless.its not like it’s running the crucible, so why bother nerfing something that 98% of the community isn’t using? You just completely ignored my point…
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Editado por Rev: 5/14/2024 5:01:36 AMNo one is asking for it to be nerfed to awful status, just to a point where dying to one feels more deserved than random. Weighted Throwing Knives currently have very forgiving magnetism, arguably more than Snipers.
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To compensate for the issues I listed above yeah. But if throwing knives don’t have that then not even top players will use it. They just straight up don’t need a nerf at all. A majority of players are not using it effectively, and top players use other options because they are objectively better and less risk involved. I don’t understand what ground you’re even trying to stand on? Do you think that one shots should just not exist? Cause that point your making would still be an “issue” even if they tone down aim assist (which they don’t need to do)
