[quote]2. Clovis was corrupt and Maya sacrificed herself to the darkness. The collector's edition lore for Beyond Light suggested it, Clarity Control (in-game) further bolsters it... the recent exotic mission and veiled statue all but confirms it.[/quote]
You make the connection of the Veiled Statue to Maya in this post. In another you referred to her both Madonna and mother.
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Editado por jhermannITJ: 7/13/2023 2:04:27 AMAgain not Maya, Osana... is the veiled statue. Clovis submitted to the darkness, was in league with Savathun/Osana...one of her champions like we are...like her children are. Maya learned through the simulations that subject 13 provided that the only versions where we (life/the 'light) won, she was consumed by the darkness. So, she made the conscious decision to let it happen. That's why she is the Madonna, Maya is the statue on Venus handing us a Nimbus - a different statue. Maya is "love"... sublimity, the objective subjectivity... transcendence. Osana is the opposite... Osana gave up her family for power, to become a slave to her ambition. Cursed with false "Maternity" she operated the tribute... a manufactured simulation to feed souls to the Witness, slowly siphoning power for herself.... Across multiple timelines moving the pieces around on the chessboard trying to create a different outcome where she escaped her bondage and became the Alpha (even in those visions with Clovis she acknowledges the Witnesses dominion over her). And with Subject 13, Maya saw those timelines and she enabled them through her own sacrifice. But before she did... she designed the Echo protocol with Chioma, Soteria, Cayde, SiVA & Charlamagne (and the subminds). Because there's literally no avoiding the Collapse. Per the Prophecy, for the Light to break through... we must lose. Savathun must win. This whole thing has been a facade.
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Yet your quote shows you using the Veiled Statue as the proof of Maya’s fall to darkness. So you’re using it for whoever and however. Multiple people with various reasons for one object. I mean…it’s an idea?
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Editado por jhermannITJ: 7/13/2023 2:16:46 AMI'm not they're "foils" of each other. I clearly explain that. The ruse is defaming the 'mother' assuming her role. Something Savathun is kinda' known for... doppleganging. It started with last season and Lightfall... Nimbus is trying to expose Osiris... he already knows who Maya really is. That's why it's called Veil "Containment".... These names are important, in psychological realism it defines perspectives... in the Brother's Karamazov, each brother has multiple names indicative of multiple perspectives... 'Osiris' IS connected to Isis, the Veil of Isis... similar iconography. The Witch Queen has different names defining different perspectives and periods in her life. The Prince of the Awoken... Uldywn, Uldren... Crow... same tropes of multiple perspectives and indeterminism. Nimbus knows the subtext to Maya's sacrifice per the record of Subject 13. Osiris is corrupt. On Venus (a different statue), Maya is handing us a "nimbus". The Cloudstriders are allies of life, of the "Light"... Maya created them for that purpose. They're like bloodhounds for hidden darkness, and Nimbus knows Osiris doesn't smell right. I think Ikora knows it too... but that's speculation based on her trip to Venus during the Witch Queen content year. She most likely learned about Maya's research and Subject 13's simulations then.
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What does their being foils have to do with you saying one statue means different people for different things? Not to mention why they would of been made by the Witness and his people. First time you’re saying anything about a ruse, making up stuff on the fly? Misdirection with Osiris and Nimbus. Pointless speculation based unrelated to the question.
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bro can't get his sh*t together lmao
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Editado por jhermannITJ: 7/13/2023 3:06:04 AMDifferent statues, veiled statue is Osana... Nimbus statue is Maya. Veiled Statues probably predate Maya, the one on Venus, in the Lightfall marketing material, is outside her secret labs on Venus. That represents Maya, that's where she began her research with subject 13, the research that created the Cloudstriders. The collapse mitigation protocols.... The statue there represents that. "Handing us a Nimbus". I know some people hate Nimbus as a character... be they're important... Those are the labs I assume Ikora and her spies were investigating. But I don't know that 100% for sure. She went to Venus though... then Crow followed her, which is kinda' suspect.