While it’s a horrible way to die, and I definitely pity the passengers and their families, the whole situation spelled disaster from the start. These were not victims of a national tragedy. They paid big money to board a vessel that they knew was dangerous and stupid, to view the remains of a [i]real[/i] tragedy like they’re on a field trip. The sub practically had warning signs spelling death, but I guess seeing a mass grave was worth the risk. It has the same bad taste as influencers posing for pictures in Äuschwitz. People die in the ocean every day, but these people will or have already died paying ridiculous amounts of money for a sightseeing expedition. I wouldn’t have been sad if Jeff Bezos didn’t come back to Earth. I don’t feel remorse for the people that die climbing Everest. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I only hope they’re not suffering.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with going to see the Titanic. I mean, it's a part of history, and it's incredibly interesting to examine. I recently went on a trip to Europe, and saw places like Normandy, the Tower of London, and the Guillotine Square outside of Musee D'Orsay. Countless died in these places, but they're fascinating places all the same. As for the risk, everything in life is a risk. I think it's a bit callous to feel someone's death is justified because they took a big risk.[spoiler]As for Instagram posts of Äuschwitz, your guess is as good as mine at what kind of internet clout those kids are chasing.[/spoiler]
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Do you feel bad for the bodies on Everest? I don’t think “justified” is the right word. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. “Everything in life is a risk” oh yeah? I’m willing to bet this $250,000 risk is a lot riskier than anything you or I have ever attempted. It’s not callous to feel nothing for a strangers death. People die constantly, in more tragic ways that this. I didn’t wish death upon these people, I just couldn’t really care.
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I can feel sorrow at the bodies on Everest whilst still knowing it was their hubris which caused them to die. I believe "justified" is the perfect word as you described it: Play stupid games; win stupid prizes. They died because of their risk and therefore you find it difficult to feel any empathy towards them. It doesn't matter what they risked, the subject is what they lost. It [i]is[/i] callous to feel nothing for a tragedy, or even the loss of one life. It [i]is[/i] callous to be not moved at all by loss of human life. You are no more moved by greater tragedies than this than you are by this, because as you stated, you can't really care. You are one of many who demonstrate how society has sadly so utterly lost its value of the sanctity of human life, a fact that concerns me evermore day by day. You have spoken previously about how you've been profoundly affected by a death of someone close to you, so I know you have some value of human life, but I guess you just find it extremely, unimaginably difficult to comprehend how anyone can feel those same emotions and live in any way a life as vibrant and emotionally acute as yours. Ponder that question. Good day.
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The key here is proximity. You’re accusing me of believing my loss to be significant above anybody else’s. I said before I pity their fate, and the suffering of their families. I sympathize very well with grief, and had I known them or their families I would be devastated. But I don’t. I am a completely neutral party to this entire event, and from the perspective of an onlooker, am I morally obligated to feel remorse? I feel sadness for victims of tragedies. Like those that died on the titanic. Hoards of rich people and their families boarded this assuredly unsinkable ship with absolutely no reason to doubt their safety. There was no clear and distinct warning signs to tell them not to board. I can’t waste energy feeling sad for people that take risks at the expense of their lives. I hate seeing people ride motorcycles on the freeway, or smoke themselves to death, but even those choices are less reckless than the choice to board this submarine. I’ve been surrounded by death all my life, and all too often it has happened at the fault of the dead. It leaves you with a sense of bitterness, watching their families grieve over a loss so avoidable. I can’t be bothered to care about these men and their choices. Their families loss is tragic. Don’t accuse me of apathy, or selfishness in grieving. I am not the self-absorbed dimensionless personification of human indifference that you see to think I am. I am moved by the loss of human life, but not reckless self-destruction. I could get into a far more detailed discussion of my moral standings on human life, but disgustingly, that’s considered a political discussion. You can flaunt your moral high ground, but you don’t actually care either. People die every day, in far more tragic ways. Are you personally grieving all loss of human life? I respect the dead, and the choices they make.
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That's a good way to put it; [quote]bit callous to feel someone's death is justified because they took a big risk.[/quote] I would add, [i]or how much they paid for that risk[/i].
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Thanks for the advice
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It's not a national tragedy it's just a tragedy- period; brought directly to your phone or mobile device I lament the human condition. Just thought some of the commentary was gross.
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Sure, some of the commentary is gross. Mocking their deaths is gross, celebrating the death of billionaires is gross, but I have to reiterate: play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I don’t have to feel sad for them. I don’t feel bad for the bodies on Everest, or trapped in caves obviously too small for humans to explore. They followed an idiot captain into a homemade sub to see a mass grave site for the experience points. I just do not care.
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I don't really care either just had to share my thoughts. [spoiler]dangerous, i know[/spoiler]