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Editado por Pain On A Chain:
1/13/2022 10:12:51 PM
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If we're getting Anti-Barrier Scout and Bow, we need a major issue fixed
In previous seasons where we've had Anti-Barrier Scout and Bow, using a bow with Explosive Head or a scout rifle with Explosive Payload would make it almost impossible to break a barrier champion's shield.
For those who don't know, explosive rounds do less direct damage on impact, but the difference is made up for by the secondary explosion. Problem is, when you shot a barrier champion, only the direct hit damage would register, while the detonation would do no damage to the shield, meaning only a fraction of your damage would go through.
I only speak for myself, but all my favorite legendary bows have Explosive Head, and it really sucked to see two of my favorite perks become a detriment for three months. So Bungie, if you're bringing back these "perennial favorites," please fix this issue beforehand.
*EDIT* Full disclosure, I've been reminded politely by a clanmate (and somewhat less politely by a commentor) that this wasn't actually an issue with scout rifles; I seem to have misremembered. Oops! However, the issue still holds (or at least held) true for bows. There's a chance this has already been remedied since the last time we got Anti-Barrier Bow, but better safe than sorry. Thanks for the traction and visibility, folks.
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9 RespuestasPersonally, I'm sticking with DMT for Barrier. Sure there's Arbalest, or other scouts like Night Watch, or my personal new favorite, Polaris Lance. The issue with these options is that they don't scream "Yeehaw" every time you get a kill with them. DMT may not either, but I sure do.
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That’s enough of Bungie dictating what weapons we can or can not use.
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3 RespuestasHas it been said somewhere that scouts & bows will be anti-barrier next season?
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There should be a seasonal mod that makes anti barrier weapons with explosive payload deal more damage.
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We never had anti barrier bow before. And explosive payload does do damage to shields.
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Thanks for bringing something of value
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I was hoping we'd get anti barrier trace rifle and something to buff LMGs
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5 RespuestasEditado por Unstoppable_Screeb: 1/13/2022 10:01:30 PM100% incorrect. I use a fourth times the charm/explosive payload vouchesafe and it works like a dream against barriers. Almost impossible is ridiculous, stop spreading shite lol
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1 RespuestaI never noticed this TBH. But if it was an issue it might have been fixed with the change to explosive rounds. Now the explosive dmg can stack up with kill clip so maybe this was fixed?
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Never been an issue with scouts w/ Explosive Rounds.
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1 RespuestaIt never had an issue with scouts. I’ve used Transfiguration with explosive rounds for all barrier champs and never had an issue.
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I’d say fix Scouts to begin with before making them a seasonal focus weapon. I don’t see anyone using them outside of pvp.
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1 RespuestaAren't bows terrible for barriers because of the draw time too? Just thought it seemed odd that they referred to them as favourites. I know I certainly wouldn't use an anti barrier bow if any other options were available.
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1 RespuestaI'm just glad anti-barrier scout rifles are back! I don't like the feel of auto-rifles in Destiny .
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All of this is a moot point since Arbalest exists. It's best in slot for antibarrier with the built in disruption and genesis perks. Otherwise, use a rapid fire scout like Servant Leader/Trustee/Symmetry/Contingency Plan if need be. I'm actually drooling now thinking about Div plus Arbalest in the antibarrier/overload GMs how that will work. Antibarrier bow doesn't sound useful at all, but I bet the higher single hit damage would knock out shields quicker than people think.
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Anti Barrier scout is the third best anti barrier mod with the first being Arbalest and second sniper.... wtf are you saying? lmao
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1 RespuestaYeah, my explosive vouchsafed worked wonders and I got some nice vorpal bows saved up ready. Sure I’d like to see the bow thing buffed but I wouldn’t consider it a pressing issue
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For barriers I'm most likely going to opt for a Scout Rifle or Arby. That being said I feel like Le Monarques poison effect might make it an effective pick.
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3 Respuestaswe have bow with vorpal why even bother explosive head?
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Yeah definitely a problem with bows - scouts it worked fine Although I'll just use a frenzy bow anyway
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I hate both of those weapon types
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4 RespuestasScouts with explosive payloads did more damage to shields when they were anti barrier. Bows have never been anti barrier. Overload yes a few times but I fail to remember them as being anti barrier.
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I've had this same issue in previous seasons on bows. Disappointing for sure. That being said others on here are saying thay weren't having that issue so maybe there is more to it somehow?
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11 Respuestaseven if this were true, simple fix; don't use a bow with explosive payload. If you thought it was wise to get rid of one without, then that's not anyone else's fault but your own so no "fix" is necessary
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Editado por Bownzinho: 1/13/2022 9:10:07 PMI remember this being a problem when getting precision kills with Trust back in the old days on the Luna’s Howl quest but I didn’t realise it was a problem with barrier champions so cheers for the heads up
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While I do think thr orb issue is a bigger one, this needs to be addressed. This is a pretty bad issue if that's the case, our weapon perks are supposed to be buffs, not nerfs.
