[quote][quote][quote][quote]Here are the population numbers from Destiny Trials Report: Week 1 - 380k players. Week 2 - 340k players (-10% from launch). Week 3 - 300k players (-20% from launch). Week 4 - 278k players (-27% from launch). Week 5 - 235k players (-38% from launch). Week 6 - 245k players (-37% from launch). Week 7 - 205k players (-47% from launch). Week 8 - 189k players ( -50% from launch). Week 9 - 171K players ( -55% from launch) Week 10 - 146k players (- 62% from launch) Week 11 - 164k players (-57% from launch) Week 12 - 166k players (-57% from launch) Week 13 - 179k players (-53% from launch) Season of Arrivals Week 1 - 25k for Friday then canceled by Bungie https://mobile.twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1271540433462558721 Week 2 - 132k players (-66% from launch) Week 3- 124k players (-68% from launch) Week 4 - 140k players (-64% from launch) Week 5 - 181k players (-53% from launch) Week 6 - 153k players (-60% from launch) Week 7 - 165k players (-57% from launch) Population still bad, and at this point it’s okay if Bungie feels bad because there doesn’t seem to be any priority on improving the mode. They also aren’t showing any priority on anti-cheat, or anti-paid recoveries/carries which destroy the integrity of the mode. They seem content to let it rot. I think that sucks because it’s an event that could be really good for the game. - [b][u]FEEDBACK[/u][/b]- In a thread about adjusting the matchmaking to have a separate pool for flawless players (not a perfect solution, but maybe a helpful one) another user named Corsair Badger suggested this system: [quote]It needs to track on your account, like in the Triumphs for Trials wins and flawless runs. That's how you separate tiers. My suggestion. 0 wins - [i]Tier 7[/i] 14 Wins - [i]Tier 6[/i] 28+ Wins - [i]Tier 5[/i] 1 Flawless - [i]Tier 4[/i] 3 Flawless - [i]Tier 3[/i] 5 Flawless - [i]Tier 2[/i] 7+ Flawless - [i]Tier 1[/i] It doesn't solve the issues of people using burner accounts. For legitimate players however, it's account tracked and not card tracked meaning that people new to Trials will always match against people who are also new, and so on throughout the Tiers. It would have to track to the highest scored person in the Fireteam to stop carries. Or to still allow carries, they have to go straight into the +7 Flawless Tier 1 matches because the Sherpa is multi-flawless. Obviously the card still matches your games for you, but if you're on win 3 (and only have won 3 games on your account), you'll be playing against someone else who has likely had less than 14 wins (and no Flawless runs) so it's a fairer match and you're definitely not going to match against anyone who has gone Flawless multiple times. If you're sandbagging and not going Flawless on purpose, you'll get put into Tier 5 in the 28+ wins category to play against other weapon farmers. I know Trials isn't for casuals, but it does need to be more inviting to all players, including casuals. Casuals at best could get 1 Flawless because as soon as they go up to Tier 4, they're playing against other Flawless teams with 1 or 2 Flawless runs making it much harder. If they manage 3 Flawless runs, then they're now in Tier 3 and so on. This way everyone can have a go at Trials and not get stomped instantly. It's a solid strategy.[/quote] I think that’s a really solid strategy and a pretty well thought out suggestion.[/quote] So you're solution is to split the dwindling player base into 7 tiers. Rightoooo[/quote] No, his solution is to add more players to the player base by offering a level playing field so the experience is better for all players. Step one: read.[/quote] Step 1: Dilute the player pool 7 fold. Step 2: Hope they come back. Lmao[/quote] That is the completely wrong way to look at it, and not actually what the guy is saying. I know you didn’t read that, or this, so not sure what they point of trying to explain it as simple as possible. I can say it doesn’t dilute the player pool, and that doing nothing and hope they come back is more worthless.

No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously

[quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.

[quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.

[quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍

[quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE[/quote] I would have to get mad to stay mad. Is it?

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE[/quote] I would have to get mad to stay mad. Is it?[/quote] Stay mad. NO SBMM FOR YOUUU

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE[/quote] I would have to get mad to stay mad. Is it?[/quote] Stay mad. NO SBMM FOR YOUUU[/quote] I can’t dude, I’m not mad. I can play a SBMM playlist right now.

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE[/quote] I would have to get mad to stay mad. Is it?[/quote] Stay mad. NO SBMM FOR YOUUU[/quote] I can’t dude, I’m not mad. I can play a SBMM playlist right now.[/quote] Nice man. Im glad we agree CBMM is good

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE[/quote] I would have to get mad to stay mad. Is it?[/quote] Stay mad. NO SBMM FOR YOUUU[/quote] I can’t dude, I’m not mad. I can play a SBMM playlist right now.[/quote] Nice man. Im glad we agree CBMM is good[/quote] CBMM would be good for some playlists, but the only one that has it is Classic Mix still.

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE[/quote] I would have to get mad to stay mad. Is it?[/quote] Stay mad. NO SBMM FOR YOUUU[/quote] I can’t dude, I’m not mad. I can play a SBMM playlist right now.[/quote] Nice man. Im glad we agree CBMM is good[/quote] CBMM would be good for some playlists, but the only one that has it is Classic Mix still.[/quote] Huh?

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No thats exactly what he is saying. Making 7 new tiers of player pools that are isolated from one another. Its moronic. Its sour grapes from bad player. Get good. Seriously[/quote] Cool strawman. Try reading and discussion sometime, this is the palace for it.[/quote] Its literally what he is advocating for. Its right there. Learn what a strawman is. Or better yet, stop playing the game if you are so horrendous at it you feel the need to segregate the player population into 7 isolated units so wins can be rationed out like some kind of gaming communist utopia.[/quote] Oh cool a new strawman. 😎👍[/quote] Cool. Enjoy trials with your 0.9kd lmao[/quote] No one enjoys trials, and my trials KD is much worse, instead of stat farming I played with LFG teams and new players from my clan for a couple weeks, got the loot I wanted and stopped playing like everyone else.[/quote] Cool. Then don't play lol[/quote] I am not playing it. I would like to have a reason to and for all players to feel like they do too so it’s not just another failed D2 experiment.[/quote] Good. Don't play. Post some more about how mad you are instead. That'll do it[/quote] I’m not mad, you can tell because I have never said I was mad. I know you don’t read the posts though so I guess it’s too much to ask to expect you to know that.[/quote] Stay mad. SBMM IS GONE BABY. GONEEEE[/quote] I would have to get mad to stay mad. Is it?[/quote] Stay mad. NO SBMM FOR YOUUU[/quote] I can’t dude, I’m not mad. I can play a SBMM playlist right now.[/quote] Nice man. Im glad we agree CBMM is good[/quote] CBMM would be good for some playlists, but the only one that has it is Classic Mix still.[/quote] Huh?[/quote] Yep. Check the director. Only Classic Mix has CBMM.