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6/14/2020 12:18:55 AM
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Isn’t Savathûn Immortal Now?
In the latest lore entry by Bungie (check the News section in the app if you haven’t seen it) Savathûn enlisted Nokris under her command. But she told him to teach her necromancy. Doesn’t that mean she can just bring herself back to life? If the only way to kill her is to kill her physical form and make her retreat to her ascendant realm, wouldn’t her having necromancy prevent that? If she never has to go to her ascendant realm, then we’re completely screwed. Whelp. Guess the Darkness can just relax knowing she’ll kill us first. Nice knowing you Guardians.
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Explains dul incaru
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Powerful Hive have always been able to come back to life, necromancy makes it easier to come back from the ascendent realm but if we kill her in the ascendent realm then she’s gone for good.
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Well yes, but technically yes
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I thought the hive were always immortal as long as they kept their worms fed. So I guess Savathun finally found a way around that? I guess that means she’s even more immortal then before? I don’t know the sword logic makes my head hurt when I look into it to much.
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How does having necromancy [i]prevent death[/i]? It doesn’t. It allows you to [i]come back from death[/i]. So I’m not sure where the question comes from. She will die, go to her throneworld and then go about bringing herself back. The stronger a being is, the more effort/power it takes to bring them back. That’s plenty of time to go in and finish her off.
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1 RespuestaRelax. If Savathun didnt need you, she would've killed you by now. You are her strength. Savathun may just be pretending to let Nokris know what he knows is valuable, so that he thinks he's making a worthwhile trade when in reality it's self inflicted manipulation
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3 RespuestasProbably not. Look at Hiraks for example, the mindbender. Since he's Scorn he can be revived over and over again, however due to the fact he was killed in his throne world he's permanently dead Savathune learning necromancy won't really help her survivability, since she also has a throne world. If we kill her there, not even necromancy can bring her back
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5 Respuestas[quote]But she told him to teach her necromancy. Doesn’t that mean she can just bring herself back to life? [/quote] That's not how necromancy works. And she was already immortal since you can only really kill her in her Throne World.
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1 RespuestaAn interesting question is what specifically did she want to learn it for? Oryx maybe?
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3 RespuestasNokris came out of an ascendant portal, so he didn’t bring himself back to life. Rather, he may have his own throne world. Which would be kinda strange, since Hive (I think) achieve ascendance through the [i]sword logic.[/i] Nokris goes directly against the sword logic with his necromancy. Actually, throne worlds in general go against the sword logic......
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*reads title* We used to think Guardians were immortal. Then Crota showed up. Next was SIVA. And then... [spoiler]Cayde.[/spoiler]
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5 RespuestasI think Mara is somehow gonna defeat Savathûn for good. She’s mysterious and unpredictable, and defeated Oryx, or at least contributed much to his defeat. She won’t stop there, she’ll find a way.
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Savathun's throne world is being sought after. And it isn't hard to necessarily locate such a place as the ascendant realm is an entire realm to navigate. Alone, weak, and otherwise. Most hive beings are like Oryx where they keep their ascendant realms close for quicker revive capabilities. The endless fighting favors those who can continually push back the enemy forces. In the case of guardians? That dependency is on our understanding of technology, gun, and other logic to find a solution to kill the opponent. The Hive under the same logics must adapt to meet our challenges. So Savathun will fall on the way or another. Guardians quite literally exist on the same plane as theirs to prevent the spread of enemies of humanity.
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3 RespuestasYou can't bring yourself back if you are dead. You have to be alive to perform the necromancy. Death isn't a problem for Savathun anyway, she has a court and if she keeps it hidden, she can endlessly harass anyone she wants.
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7 RespuestasEditado por Th3IrieDread: 6/14/2020 6:39:28 PMI don’t think she can self-res if nokris couldn’t... if he returns well we’re all ****ed
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Necromancers can't resurrect themselves I don't think
