Ill be the first to say, this game has been trash ever sense season 4. Season 1-3 where fine and just needed minor tuning. Ever sense season 4 it has been nothing but god awful PvP and lackluster pve. So why the title?
If you look back to season 1-3, there were complaints about PvP. HOWEVER they were specific weapon complaints. (Midas, urials, last hope, graviton, etc). Never a full archtype complaint. But after season 4 when shotguns came into the primary and secondary slots, it's all there is.
Back season 1-3 we could always look forward to a full meta shift and change. Season 1 was scouts and subs, season 2 was autos/autos and sidarms, season 3 was pulse and autos. There was never 1 dominant weapon class. However sense of season 4, no matter what, shotguns have been the go to weapon for any map. This also includes maps like eternity, bannerfall, citadel, distant shore, endless vale, equinox, the fortress, and many more. These maps where not mad as a shot gun map(s). However the game has been twisted to a point that if your not running a shotgun, you lose. (all this also combines with fusion rifles). For 2 years now shotguns and fusions have been used over and over with no sign of them being touch. Even in this last patch it didn't do anything. Shotguns and fusions are still to prevalent and to depended on. I feel they need to be either moved back to heavy or changed in such a way to make them no longer a 1 shot kill unless within 2-3 meters max, and have a 0 damage delt after 5 meters. Realistically, this would push more dedicated players to stay and play to get better than to have them getting shot because someone shots one time. This would also tune down the massive problem when it comes to pros using it sense it is basically a handicap of not using it. (Or in most cases playing against it).
With Titans, their ease of use and 4 one shot should charges with their infinite melee spam and unbreakable defense is honestly to much. No class should be able to get around the map AND deal more than 50% damage to everyone WITH gaining super all from 1 melee (non melee charge). ontoP of that supers should not be able to spam one hit over and over. This pushes a very toxic and unbalanced nature and atmosphere.
Shoulder charges should either be a non 1 hit, no lunge unless locked on, used up when you charge (hitting somthing or nothing), or entirly reworked. While the supers need to be tuned so you can't just throw a shield and get 6+ kills because the shield tracks. Or be able to spam melee. Have a cool down after blocking, etc etc. Basically the Titan is so easy to use, it makes running any other class in PvP pretty much useless.
You might not agree with me, but I still stand by my words. Season 1-3 PvP was the best hands down because it took skill.
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Not to bring back an old meme... But is variks still around to get on the comms?
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Editado por michael: 6/4/2020 1:13:46 AMShotguns are awful especially in trials. If you STILL have a problem countering them you need to maybe look at ways you can improve. I only have a problem countering shotguns if they are in the hands of an antaeus wards titan who just gets to close the gap for free and with no risk, other than that I don’t care. Snipers are infinitely better and a good sniper is infinitely more annoying to play against than a good shotgunner.
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If you’re having an issue with any fusion other than bastion and maybe Erentil then you’re the problem, and even those aren’t particularly good. Shotguns are very strong though
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Someone with 2 hunters crying for nerfs? *gasp*
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Titans are fine where they are.
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2 RespuestasYou might want to include Hunters on that list. They are the biggest shotgun abusers in the game. They dont even do 1V1 engagements in matches. They simply pair up constantly, use their easy mode leg armor and META.
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If Titans are so OP delete one of your Hunters and make a Titan...
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Ok Hunter.
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4 RespuestasBefore that: Snipers should be in the heavy slot. They can kill from any range without skill.
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Nice to see a detailed post about that topic. I'm also annoyed by getting oneshot from shotguns all the time. But it brings in pace, excitement and impressive moments wiping the enemy team which might be extremely unlikely if they are getting nerfed.
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There is alot of things in destiny 2 that need to be worked on. However going back to the shit show that was D2 vanilla is not even remotely the right answer. This is akin to putting your car into a car crusher to fix a dent in the fender.
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5 RespuestasSnipers are the most broken special weapon....
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Editado por an Ape with a d2 addiction: 6/4/2020 10:11:52 AMPlatform and perspective matter a lot. There's a interesting clip with some of the really good PC tourney players talking about special weapon skill sets. Might not like what you hear there though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B56SswCyQF0&feature=youtu.be&t=305
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Boo hoo
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Felwinter lie is op
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Editado por N00BxV1: 6/3/2020 10:59:24 PM[quote]Ill be the first to say, this game has bee[b][u]n[/u][/b] trash [b][u]e[/u][/b]ve[b][u]r[/u][/b] sense season 4. Season 1-3 where [b][u]f[/u][/b]ine and just needed minor tuning. Ever sense season 4 it [b][u]h[/u][/b]as been nothing b[b][u]u[/u][/b]t god awful PvP a[b][u]n[/u][/b]d lacklus[b][u]ter[/u][/b] pve. [b][u]S[/u][/b]o why the title? [...] [/quote] [i]message deciphered using orphan annie's secret society decoder pin[/i] [spoiler]nerf hunters[/spoiler]
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Revoker is broken
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80 RespuestasYeah but hunters can dodge every nine seconds go invisible,block radar jump really high regain health on dodge. Run very fast cancel supers block everything with mid tree arc. Throw smoke one hit knife... every class has stupid things. The difference is hunters have the most stupid things and titans have one extremely stupid item to compensate for the rest.
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11 RespuestasOK not going to check, hunter main? 😂
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1 RespuestaI've been a Titan main since d1 that's honestly the only time I ever thought they where very strong and one of the most used classes now you hardly even see a Titan you use a hunter with an almost one tap bow that's a clean up weapon also you use a hunter which is the most dominate pvp class so before you say titans are easy to use maybe don't main a hunter they have really strong supers and very good mobility to maneuver around the map if you can't counter shoulder charge which is very bad now and is very inconsistent then you honestly need to reconsider your pvp career because it's very easy to counter the problems you state
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1 RespuestaSorry what 👆 😂😂😂
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Don't take this seriously everyone. Just another simple case of mad cos bad 😏
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6 RespuestasThat's alot of text just to say that your bad 😏
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Editado por Eucadia: 6/3/2020 2:41:32 PM> Talks about skill. > Has Le Monarque and a Quickdraw Primary equipped on a Hunter. Bodyshoting with a Bow/Sniper and putting 1 bullet with a Primary isn't skillful at all. Gotta love how noobs always default to the "move to heavy" option when the 20 nerfs made against their counters still isn't enough for them lmao.
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Shotguns, sidearms and fusions are all awesome in the right hands but none of them need to be nerfed. But Erentil does need an ornament, ASAP
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15 RespuestasHave you tried using a fusion rifle in PvP these days? Good gods. Most of them are awful.