I still haven't bothered finishing Pit of Heresy, the only reward i could really see was the opportunity to buy an overpriced Hive Sword replica. If it had a cool looking exclusive armour set i'd probably go for it but i see no point otherwise

I honestly feel like you are not correct per the complaint. Destiny 1 was about balance. There were many good options due to random rolls as long you put the time in with your build and the grind for the perfect synergy per weapons. Be it exotics or legendary weapons. Once bungie introduced the iron lords dlc in year 3 of d1, I knew this game was screwed. Bungie started creating their own metas to sell dlc. They began trying to nerf things to change gameplay. Fast forward to d2.. and their approach was to use better metas to sell dlc... instead of making a better game. The “loot” needs to be competitive, not the meta. The “loot” needs to look awesome. Both weapons and armor. < this entices your casual base to chase said objects more than a weapon being op. *ie Luna/NF effect on pvp and thinning playerbase at the time vs getting the trials gear/ornaments in d1 and a huge player pool. As far as raids and their loot, you are correct. The tryhard mechanics vs the loot is not worthwhile to master. Power creep is exactly what is wrong with the game. Console or pc. See, the core of the game should be about counters and not “ttk” or dps while bungie balances any outliers that surpass the average ttk/dps. Take your base release.. we do the story, we get our exotics/weapons that sets the tone... Then with each new addition, said threat should be designed to counter what we have earned and mastered... by beating said content, we gain those counters... so on so forth. ^ this trickles into pvp.. and what you would then have is a pvp full of counters and high skill separating factors. The smarter player wins. Any player could have their “wow” moments and thus filling up the player pool, but the higher skilled players stay happy. In return, sbmm would be less of a concern and everyone is having fun with their unique path chosen with their chosen class and counter builds. That is exactly how d1 was born.. but now we have this power creep meta chasing game where the choices are shallow or you just become a thrall running around in pvp... with a shallow meta. You then have a player base that will always be frustrated because you HAVE to better ALL the time.

Why is the sky blue? we could get really meta physical about it but ithink the simple answer is cuz thats what we call it. the dev definately are suffering from a god complex and keep thinking up things like a platypus. why did we need these guns that break rules and need to be fixed every other week. why do we have an artifact that quite literaly has broken more legacy gear than the value it has brought to players, i guess you could say its a way of sandboxing mods for future implimintaion, but as they break a ton of things and last for 3 months is that really the best idea? why when redoing armor 2.0 did they continue to create new bases not just new orniments? this boggles me as its supposed to be the build your own armor model.... well unlock the special mods for raids so we can apply them at will and make all future armor "types" as orniments to be picked up from open world locaitions and i think it would be better executed. it would make master working gear acutually have a point. bungie says armor over 60 stats rando drops but the rate is so low im encouraged to use the seasonal armor thats spoon fed to me, while thats very nice in a participation trophy kinda way, its not helpful since the raid mods cant be applied to it so my 4th slot is forever empty. Not every new exotic gun is going to be a bespoke piece that every play wants or can use, not every map addition or activity will be something everyone will want to play but why are devs dreaming up new ideas that break more things than they add? if the game is suffering from being to large why make more maps? why not expand on ones that exist already, leviathan is huge, the menagerie can be expanded on, the acendant plane like the infinate forest is customizable to a million degrees to fit a new activity. we have d1 designs for guns/maps use them, if d1 needs to go offline well why not port it over as a sundial based activity line (fingers crossed someone is working on that idea). I reallize my 200 bucks only pays for a few hours of 1 devs time over the last 4 years but this is a 2 minute read... we are owed that much. stop making loot that breaks my favorite looter shooter, its the reason to keep playing. if you think the loot isnt the goal id suggest you reevaluate the player base at the launch the first DLC, because i like many others werent a round anymore because the loot sucked.

feel better? now, go play a game you like and stop tossing salt around in these forums ( fwiw, i didn't see one constructive suggestion, just salty whining )

Who gives a shiit

Jesus just stop playing.

I farmed the sundial until I got a sustenance swashbuckler stealfeather, which works awesome with war rig (which also reloads heavy machine gun like xenophage). I also farmed for a triple tap vorpal trophy hunter which from the special ammo slot with a boss spec mod does close to the same amount of damage as the whisper does from the heavy slot. The lack of activities has allowed me time to farm those two weapons as well as work on enhancement core bounties for prisms and shards.

I just want to point out how misguided the pinnacle grind is. The weapons are not pinnacle the armor isn't pinnacle You're not chasing gear, you're chasing numbers. You're not chasing a rocket launcher from Pit of Heresy for the Rocket Launcher, you're chasing a number higher than your current one in the heavy slot. The loot feels empty because it often is. I have to wonder how many people are actually in it for the loot, rather than infusion fodder for weapons and armor they actually like to use.

Don’t forget that if you dump 29 trillion fractaline into the obelisk next week you get a shader and emblem.

They should seriously look at D1, they got this "looter shooter" genre and everything else better than D2. Raid weapons used to be treasured for their truly unique perks, and solid rolls.