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Editado por TheArtist:
11/3/2019 1:30:25 PM
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Yeah they aren’t Fortnite.
Which means they have to crank out a steady stream of new things to do and loot to chase.
Your $60 for the year (if you’re even paying that much) doesn’t cover the costs. The MOST anyone is required to pay to play this game is $5 a month. (which I doubt you are looking at your game history).
Most games like this are charging you a monthly subscription fee.
Eververse is there so Bungie doesn’t have to.
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Most games that charge a subscription deliver content that isn't a bunch of reskins. Updates come frequently at a steady pace. Game fixes are also steady and thoroughly done. The people that make those games are more accountable and actually communicate with the community not mryoutubetwitch streamerx. They also host events that a free to the game with a bunch of things for players to do and earn cool event items not lock them strictly behind their cash shop alone. Their cash shops are also treated as a tip jar want that item here it is for a buck or 5. Not 15 20 bucks.
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How many sub fee games charge less than $5 a month?
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I never said the subscriptions were 5 bucks I said items in their cash shop. Slow down and read before you try to make an argument. But to answer you question most subscription based games charge around 30 bucks a month. Then their items in the cash shop like I said is like a tip jar. Like that skin? A few bucks as a tip. The subscription pays for the game to continue updating and have content for the players which is a fair trade. Some can argue d2 is free to play. But that's base game content. Don't even have the missions from the original campaign. Most of us payed for d2 the expansions and annual passes. That's a good couple hundred bucks easy.
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Editado por TheArtist: 11/4/2019 9:44:11 PM[quote]But to answer you question most subscription based games charge around 30 bucks a month. Then their items in the cash shop like I said is like a tip jar.[/quote] When you are getting that much from sub-fees, you can do that, because you are not having to rely on the microstore as a significant revenue stream. What Bungie is doing is just the opposite. Its more like a FTP game. Paying for the DLC is the "tip" you give to content that you really like----since its OPTIONAL----, while the cash store is a significant source of revenue needed to fund the game. Because there is no reliable revenue stream for Bungie to fall back on, ala sub fees. And New light does come with the campaigns from Year 1. just not Year 2.
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Paying for the DLC is the "tip" you give to content that you really like----since its OPTIONAL---- Excuse me? I really hope your joking with that one. If your not that's ridiclous. You pay for the doc and annual pass for access to that content that it offers. Yes it is optional but your paying 30 bucks for a dlc. 10 bucks per season. To access that content. The cash store is the tip jar. Not the dlcs and annual passes. That's hilarious of you think that's the case and are really grasping at straws to defend such a greedy way of trying to get money. And New light does come with the campaigns from Year 1. just not Year 2.[/quote] Actually no it doesn't you complete the first mission of d1 then your thrown into the edz. The point is the cash store shouldn't be the only updated vendor every season of destiny 2. Bungie says making content is hard but have no problem pulling resources to update the cash shop? Of course people are going to call them greedy. When you won't even do simple things like updating the planetary vendors. Updating factions which have been Mia since before forsaken release. If bungie wants to charge ten bucks for an armor set which is the same cost as a season of content. By all means go ahead and do so. But put that money into the game instead of just filling pockets and people wouldn't call them greedy.
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Bro this guy is literally not smart. He will find any and all little small details to try and turn it around so he feel like he is smarter than you. Just like how women will find the smallest most minuscule detail about something to make you feel like sh*t. He’s so wrapped up into Bungies BS that he cannot see anything wrong with them even if it slapped him in the face. Also I looked up his history on here and this douche has the nerve to talk trash to people complaining about Crucible but then turns around and complains about it as well. Talk about double standards. So again he is just like a woman.
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I wouldn't generalize as him being like a woman. A feminazi yes. But a woman no. My girlfriend isn't blind to bungie's bullshit either. And your right he's proably an idiot fanboy that will try to grasp at anystraw he can to defend any tactic that bungie pulls. I honestly love the world of destiny, the lore, the gameplay, the way things feel. I want the game to be great just like many others do. I also commend bungie on things that I feel they did a good decent even great job with. But I'm not blind to greedy tactics or when I see a major screw up that they ignore for long periods of time till a YouTuber/streamer makes a stink about it.
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You really don't understand what Bungie has done with the monetization of this game, do you?? 1. Unlike under Activision, you are no longer requred to own all previous DLC to play the current content. Not only is buying the DLC optional (its now ala carte), Even buying the seasons is optional. 2. This means that---since players can choose not to buy content they dont' like---they can't rely on that revenue stream any more. Its too unpredictable. (Imagine how much money Bungie would have lost if we could have all jsut SKIPPED Season of The Drifter, knowing we could easily come back the next season without falling behind??). 3. That means Bungie needs to make up that revenue short fall SOMEWHERE ELSE. Especially since Activision is no longer writing checks to fund the development of new content. or to pay to market it. 4. That leads us to Eververse. by converting it to a cash store, it now acts like MTX do in a free-to-play game. A means to distribute (in this case a portion ot) the cost of the game over the entire player base....insstead of demanding it from every player individualy. Cash strapped players should be CHEERING what Bungie is done here. Because it means it will cost them LESS over time to play this game.....at the cost of having stuff in eververse that they can't have. Beause its being sold to players like me, who are paying part of your share of the cost of supporting this game.
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1.) Yes you had to own previous dlc to play current dlcs with Activision. But you also were able to earn engrams and get things from eververse by simply playing the game. Was it a gamble yes. But you didn't have to fork over cash every time somthing came to the cash shop. Season of the drifter had it's lack in content but it also has some of the coolest weapons like spare rations sole survivor as examples that was part of annual pass optional extension of dlc. Which later became free with forsaken purchase when shadowkeep released. 2. I understand companies need revenue but this isn't an indie studio this is Bungie. They've been in the gaming business for quite some time now. They arnt exactly hurting for money sorry. 3. Eververse was first introduced in d1 to fund live events and free updates. April update and age of triumph were the last of those types of updates. In d2 we have yet to get somthing like that. Festival of the lost the dawning have had more content in the cash shop than they did have activities for the actual event. The art design team did a great job with decorating the tower so cuddos to them on a great job their but after you earn the auto rifle what are you really going to do for the rest of the event really? By some candy bags and get some mats? 4. Simply put if bungie wants players to spend money at their cash shop to continue funding destiny 2 and future content. Them they need to deliver on that content and show that they are investing time into the game not their next cash shop update.
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Still a flawed business model. Wildly overcharging for cosmetic gear means they actually make less money than if the prices were reasonable. $5 for a set of nice armor? Most players would probably go for that. $15? Nah, no thanks.
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Editado por TheArtist: 11/3/2019 9:12:20 PMActually not. You’re assuming that the goal is for the entire player base to have what’s in the store. It’s like saying that BMW wildly overcharges compared to Honda. The point is to give certain players something rare in exchange for a large sum of money in comparison to what we’re paying for content. That price communicates value and exclusivity.
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Each event prices go up. There's no reason to charge 10.00 for the tombstone emote, released 2 days before Halloween, when the previous event emote was 8.00, n the one before that 6.00. Its a surevsign that less people are spending, so up the cost for the ones that are, to make the lost revenue back.
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Counter Point! there is no reason to need a tombstone emote in a video game! Who is patting you on the back for either paying for or wasting time on virtual items... like please cry to "real people" outside the forum wait and see how quickly you get shunned for your first world problems.
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Thank you for the edit and clarification. But I disagree that the price communicates value and exclusivity. The price is part of a marketing plan to try to [b][i]project[/i][/b] an image of value and exclusivity. Whether the product contains those things is highly suspect. Exclusivity? Sure, since you can’t earn that shit in-game (which is a big mistake, imo). But value? Nah. No real value. And that’s why people are balking at paying $15. In the same way, part of BMW’s marketing plan is the projection of an image of exclusivity and value through a higher price. Whether it is actually more value-able, however, than a nice Honda or Toyota is highly subjective.
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Their goal is to make the most money possible. In which case, in my opinion, they’d make far more by charging less for everything. In the case of Eververse stuff, most of it is not worth nearly what’s being asked.
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They do. That’s why way more people own Hondas. BMWs are great until they break down (twice as quickly as the Honda) and cost twice as much to fix.
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Kellygreen of the bungie defense force has arrived. I’m in awe that you feel so in love with them that you feel the need to defend them every new thread. I can’t ever imagine feeling the need to do that for a company I don’t work for. Let alone one I do.
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Editado por TheArtist: 11/3/2019 5:43:37 PMHow is the game improved by unreasonable and childish demands?? My loyalty is to the game. Not Bungie or this adolescent tribal war between gamers and corporations. Without these corporations we’d have no games to play....
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Fanboys are so cute...Here’s a cookie for being such a excellent Bungie groupie.
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no you are! see we can all be kids here.
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How cute another Fanboy...ROFL
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Like I said. Childish.
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I’m not arguing with you because that would go nowhere, you think you know everything and you think all your opinions are the only correct opinions...all I’m saying is I don’t like the new you, and just don’t understand the logic of defending bungie like you do.
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Editado por TheArtist: 11/3/2019 5:54:52 PMOr you simply have no rational counter argument and a lot of attitude? I don’t know everything. But I know a lot. I make sure I know what I’m talking about before I speak....and I try to see things from as many points of view as possible. You kids can’t see past “I want and they’re bad if they won’t give me!!” No consideration whatsoever that nearly a thousand people rely on the money this game makes to earn their living.
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LOL this guys is such a clown
