[quote]According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950's through June 15th of 2018, 97.8 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 2.2 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them.[/quote]
Sure, you arent likely to be -blam!-, or mugged, or assaulted in a crowded public place, like a movie theater, or a shopping mall, or an administration building, or a school. That's not where those types of crimes usually happen so it might seem appealing to make it a rule that nobody can have a gun in those places, right?
Except heres the problem. The vast majority of the time when we declare a place a "gun free zone" we do nothing, [u]nothing[/u] to actually stop somebody from bringing a gun there. We just tell everyone they will be prosecuted (or lose their job, if they're employed there) if they get caught doing so.
Sandy Hook was a gun free zone under state and federal law. But guess what? Nothing physically stopped him from bringing a gun into that school anyway.
The Aurora Colorado movie theater was a "gun free zone" and guess what, nothing physically stopped him from bringing a gun anyway.
The latest mass shooting, happened in a building where civilians [i]could technically, legally have a gun[/i], it was an administrative building and therefore no civilians would have a reason to be there unless they were employees and... employees were not allowed to have weapons so... gun free zone.
In fact, pretty damn close to [u]all[/u] mass shootings have happened in "gun free zones". These people, who are often mentally ill, or motivated by religious extremism, or just "regular" homicidal degenerates, don't give a single iota of damn about the possibility of being fined, going to jail for a few years, getting fired, or getting a write up that could damage their career.
The people who [i]do [/i] give a shit, are the people like you and me who [i]care[/i] about their careers, and would rather avoid jail or fines. THOSE people arent the ones you should worry about.
If you think planting an invisible line around a public place and saying "no guns allowed" does anything to make the place safer heres what I want you to do. Take a lunch box, or a backpack, and think about any place you could bring it, without someone actually making even the slightest effort to check its contents. See, pretty much any handgun will fit in a lunchbox or backpack and even some long guns will fit in a backpack. Really think about it. Where could you bring that without being screened? A mall? A restaurant? Work? The answer is: [spoiler]almost anywhere.[/spoiler]
Heres an idea: if a place wants to be a "gun free zone" they should be forced to actually provide [i]meaningful[/i] security for that place. Simply slapping a "no guns" sticker on a window and calling it good should no longer be acceptable.
Breakdown of the issue. Most mass shootings happen in gun free zones.
[spoiler]https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/01/09/over-98-of-mass-shootings-occurred-on-gun-free-zones-research-shows[/spoiler]
"BbBuT tHe BlAzE iS BiAsEd ReEe"
Go ahead and tell me how the crime prevention research center they are citing for the central premise of the article is "biased" and how that "bias" tainted their findings or your argument is invalid.
[spoiler]https://crimeresearch.org/2018/06/more-misleading-information-from-bloombergs-everytown-for-gun-safety-on-guns-analysis-of-recent-mass-shootings/[/spoiler]
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2 RespuestasI really don't understand why ppl are still whining about this. It's not as if any gun control is even remotely likely in US. If it didn't happen under Pres Obama, it certainly won't now. It's like complaining that you need a new car, when you have a new car sitting in your driveway.
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6 RespuestasThis long and I’m just checking in before I go sleep 🙄 Plus when America’s 100% gun free zone it will be 100% of shootings 😁
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That's a whole lot of text just to say: I've never made a woman orgasm
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I will shred this universe down to its last atom
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1 RespuestaI only visit “gun required zones”.
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3 Respuestas[quote]"BbBuT tHe BlAzE iS BiAsEd ReEe" Go ahead and tell me how the crime prevention research center they are citing for the central premise of the article is "biased" and how that "bias" tainted their findings or your argument is invalid."[/quote]Okay. The Crime Prevention Research Center is a "think tank" set up by John Lott, a right wing researcher notorious for, among other things, [url=https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2003/10/double-barreled-double-standards/]poor[/url] [url=https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/959799267404800000?s=19]methodology[/url], [url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130304061928/http:/www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~lambert/guns/lindgren.html]alleged academic fraud[/url], and [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2003/02/01/scholar-invents-fan-to-answer-his-critics/f3ae3f46-68d6-4eee-a65e-1775d45e2133/?utm_term=.1267123027a5]using sock-puppet accounts to boost his image[/url]. Accordingly, criminologists and economists typically view Lott's claims with a pretty healthy dose of skepticism. I'm mostly ambivalent about gun-free zones myself, but this [quote]Except heres the problem. The vast majority of the time when we declare a place a "gun free zone" we do nothing, [u]nothing[/u] to actually stop somebody from bringing a gun there.[/quote]would seem to miss the point of gun-free zones, at least in part. Gun-free zones aren't meant to just dissuade potential, premeditated malicious actors; gun-free zones (theoretically) also work to prevent accidental shootings and shootings resulting from heat-of-the-moment flare-ups, and could provide for quicker reactions to potential threats. And, of course, freedom of association works both ways, wrt gun-free zones.
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5 RespuestasOr you could just make it so the psycho doesn’t get the weapon in the first place?
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14 RespuestasI have a question. Since everyone has a gun, no criminals should risk shootings or mass murder right? So why here in Canada there are a lot less shootings than in the United States?
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2 RespuestasThe only place that a gun shouldn’t be allowed is at a bar if you are planning on getting drunk.
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yeah with a gun law you could get shot and then mugged
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1 RespuestaIt’s simple really, if everyone has a gun then everyone has an equal chance Perfectly balanced, as all things should be And if everyone’s super.... no one will be
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5 RespuestasNot an expert on this, but it sounds to me like these gun free zones are being targeted because they're more likely to be successful as nobody can fight back.
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20 RespuestasYou have a second amendment. You can legally bring a gun anywhere. If an airport trys to confiscate it sue.
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*Makes a gun free sign* Government: We did it. Crime is no more!
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4 Respuestasspeed limit signs don't work either. 🤷🏽♂️
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I would say America needs tighter gun laws but even if there were tighter gun laws, there's already so fuc[u][/u]kin many firearms floating around that it wouldn't actually do anything.
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8 RespuestasEditado por BADMAGIK: 6/3/2019 12:18:30 AMI always laugh when liberals cry about wanting more gun laws. When are they going to understand that criminals couldn't care less about laws? The definition of criminal is someone who disobeys law. The only thing that strict gun laws affect are law abiding citizens. The obsession liberals have over guns is beyond stupid and their claims make absolutely no sense.
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1 RespuestaI actually agree completely. There NEEDS to be something done. I see a sign like that and I think, “Well, what’s to stop anyone? I don’t see any guards. Who’s protecting these people? In my opinion, every public place needs armed cops.
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[the idea of gun free zones are flawed to begin with. Making an area where people can feel “safe” from a forearm attack by limiting/removing firearm access inside just straps a sign on their back that says, “hey crazy -blam!-, I’m a whimpering dog who won’t fight back, come beat the ever-living-shit out of me!” Instead of protecting you (like many liberals claim they do), gun free zones strap a target on your back and put you at more risk. Surprised the liberals figured out the obvious before 2119 (when my predictions said they might see it.)]
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1 RespuestaIMO if a private business wants to be gun free they should be legally responsible for their patron’s safety. Aka if there’s a mass shooting they can be sued if someone dies.
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3 RespuestasThis should be painfully obvious to people, but if you get rid of all guns, you give guns only to the police and the people who were going to do bad things with guns anyways. Why is it that Texas has less gun crime than alot of the rest of the country? Because everyone is armed to the teeth and if you pulled a gun on someone, it is likely that everyone in your near vicinity would pull one on you
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6 RespuestasAs a left leaning moderate I support this message.
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Gun free zones just limit law abiding citizens from having guns in that area. That's it.
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2 RespuestasMall officer: you’re gonna need to take your weapon outside Varvatos: but what if the bad guy has a weapon? He won’t care about the law. If anything happens, Varvatos is the only one able to defend everyone Mall officer: ...
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1 RespuestaA gun-free zone is equivalent to the notion that the best way to stop your sheep (or lambs, in the case of schools) from being eaten by wolves is to ensure that there are no sheepdogs in your pasture. In other words, pure idiocy.